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| I'm using qmail with vpopmail and simscan. Via simscan I'm using
| Spamassassin 3.1. Is there any possibility to move any incoming
| mails, which are tagged by sa, in a special directory for that
| perticular domain? Or is this a vpopmail question?

Whatever it is, I am pretty sure it isn't a qmail question.
If the mail has been tagged before it gets to local delivery, it is
possible that condredirect will help.

- Harald

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On Tue, 03 Jan 2006 14:55:15 +0100
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> Hi,
> 
> I'm using qmail with vpopmail and simscan. Via simscan I'm using 
> Spamassassin 3.1. Is there any possibility to move any incoming mails,
> which are tagged by sa, in a special directory for that perticular 
> domain? Or is this a vpopmail question?

Not used vpopmail here, but for dumping it to different maildirs, I am
using procmail.

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Hi,

I'm using qmail with vpopmail and simscan. Via simscan I'm using 
Spamassassin 3.1. Is there any possibility to move any incoming mails, 
which are tagged by sa, in a special directory for that perticular 
domain? Or is this a vpopmail question?

Regards
Christoph


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* lists@peterschen.de <lists@peterschen.de> [060103 20:58]:
> Hi,
> 
> I'm using qmail with vpopmail and simscan. Via simscan I'm using 
> Spamassassin 3.1. Is there any possibility to move any incoming mails, 
> which are tagged by sa, in a special directory for that perticular 
> domain? Or is this a vpopmail question?

Never used simscan and not used vpopmail for long time, but I guess it
will be easy in you can control it using .qmail files. Something like
grep for particular string in header and then use safecat to move it to
different maildir can help. Or even using maildrop can help here.

Shantanu
www.shantanukulkarni.org


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Zitat von "Zane C. B." <zanecb@midwest-connections.com>:

> Not used vpopmail here, but for dumping it to different maildirs, I am
> using procmail.
>

Yeah,

but I don't want to create for each costumer a rule with procmail. Or 
is it possible to invoke one scipt for each domain?

Reagrds
Christoph



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We have recently taken over an ISP that uses Qmail. My experience has only
been with Postfix and Sendmail and am trying to put together how Qmail
works.

In the last week there have been some issues regarding mail delivery, both
locally and remotely.

There are three servers, all of the handling incoming and outbound mail.

One server mailq:

messages in queue: 2700
messages in queue but not yet preprocessed: 7

Current smtpd sessions:                         54
Mail currently being delivered remotely:        23
Mail currently being delivered locally:         0
Current POP mail:                               0

Server #2:

messages in queue: 1404
messages in queue but not yet preprocessed: 6

Current smtpd sessions:                         47
Mail currently being delivered remotely:        18
Mail currently being delivered locally:         0
Current POP mail:                               1

Server #3:

messages in queue: 1516
messages in queue but not yet preprocessed: 0

Current smtpd sessions:                         57
Mail currently being delivered remotely:        10
Mail currently being delivered locally:         0
Current POP mail:                               2

Last week the queues on two of the machines were sitting at over 100k
mails in both the preprocessed queue and the queue. Stopping and starting
qmail on each of the servers has cleaned them out to a degree but mail
delivery locally and remotely is still and issue.

Most, if not all of the mails were <> null senders.

I need to clean out the queue's. With postfix I built some scripts to
clean out the queues, but with Qmail Ive read that its bad to delete mail
from the queue and it should be expired out instead. There is valid mail
in the queues but it takes forever to deliver.

SA and Clam are being used on these machines as well rblsmtpd is used too.
Where can I start looking at this to figure out why Qmail is so slow at
processing mail?

The log file sucks as *everything* is logged to one big file by something
called Overlord. Syslog is one line:

*.* /usr/sbin/overlord

Makes it hard to figure what program is doing what.

Anyone have some clue to share on where to start?

Thanks,
Keith

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Keith Woodworth <keith@citytel.net> wrote:
> 
> We have recently taken over an ISP that uses Qmail. My experience has only
> been with Postfix and Sendmail and am trying to put together how Qmail
> works.
> 
> In the last week there have been some issues regarding mail delivery, both
> locally and remotely.
> 
> There are three servers, all of the handling incoming and outbound mail.

Your three servers currently look "normal", based on the info you gave.

> Last week the queues on two of the machines were sitting at over 100k
> mails in both the preprocessed queue and the queue. Stopping and starting
> qmail on each of the servers has cleaned them out to a degree but mail
> delivery locally and remotely is still and issue.

Starting and stopping qmail-send should not have any beneficial effect on
sending of mail.  If qmail-send is completely wedged, it's generally because
it's blocked waiting on its logger (disk full or similar).  Otherwise,
stopping and re-starting qmail-send will just slow down mail throughput, as
qmail-send has to do a complete queue scan at stop and again at start.

> Most, if not all of the mails were <> null senders.

Sounds like you got a storm of bounces; you may have been the victim of a joe
job, or perhaps there was a hole in your system (exploitable CGI script, bad
relaying permissions, etc) that allowed someone to abuse one of your servers
for sending spam, and you were seeing the splashback.

> The log file sucks as *everything* is logged to one big file by something
> called Overlord. Syslog is one line:

There's one of your problems.  qmail works so fast that it can cause syslog
to suck up 90%+ of your CPU.  Change your qmail-send configuration to log
through multilog instead of splogger->syslog.  Then your qmail-send logs will
be separate and easily analyzable.

Charles
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On Mon, Dec 26, 2005 at 03:27:33PM -0500, Jeremy Kister wrote:
> Beware of people who drink the no-perl koolaid - a server
> spends more cpu watching the code run in 'top' than running the code itself.

Replacing an small perl checkpassword programm (with MySQL support) on a
server with some 50+ POP3 connects/second by a equivalent written in C
reduced the load on that server *very drastically*.
The server spent more time "compiling" the perl code than actually
running it.

If the perl program is a "start once - run forever" type like tcpserver
it doesn't make a big difference. If it is a "start over and over
again, run shortly" like qmail-queue replacements it will totally trash
really busy server.

	\Maex

P.S. This can be easily tested (but is off topic for this list)
     Write a small program in C and perl that does (concept code):
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	 dfd = opendir(somedir);
	 while (fn = readdir(dfd))
	     print("<li>%s", fn);
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     do the same with the perl script.
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Quoting jared <demottjar@yahoo.com>:

> Scott,
>
> Thanks.  I tried that once before, but exec doesn't recognize ulimit. 
> Can you give me an example on how this could be done?
>

Danger Will Robinson!

Let's step back a bit here. You're trying to patch qmail-smtpd with your
own code which is not working as you'd hope (otherwise you probably
wouldn't need the core dump) but at the same time you don't have the
skills to patch a simple shell script. Sounds like you're trying to run
before you can walk.

Try this:

    #!/bin/sh

    ulimit -c 1024
    exec ....


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Thanks for the vote of confidence! :)

Already tried that -- adding the ulimit to the top of the script. 
(actually I used 'ulimit -c unlimited').

Didn't work.  That's when I tried to add the ulimit command as part of 
the exec line...thinking that that might somehow help.

Any ideas?

Jared

Peter Samuel wrote:
> Quoting jared <demottjar@yahoo.com>:
> 
>> Scott,
>>
>> Thanks.  I tried that once before, but exec doesn't recognize ulimit. 
>> Can you give me an example on how this could be done?
>>
> 
> Danger Will Robinson!
> 
> Let's step back a bit here. You're trying to patch qmail-smtpd with your
> own code which is not working as you'd hope (otherwise you probably
> wouldn't need the core dump) but at the same time you don't have the
> skills to patch a simple shell script. Sounds like you're trying to run
> before you can walk.
> 
> Try this:
> 
>    #!/bin/sh
> 
>    ulimit -c 1024
>    exec ....
> 
> 


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Quoting jared <demottjar@yahoo.com>:

> Thanks for the vote of confidence! :)

My pleasure :)

>
> Already tried that -- adding the ulimit to the top of the script. 
> (actually I used 'ulimit -c unlimited').
>
> Didn't work.

I bet it did - however your program may not have dumped core for other
reasons.

> That's when I tried to add the ulimit command as part of the exec 
> line...thinking that that might somehow help.

Obviously not - exec doesn't do that.

>
> Any ideas?

Did you try the gdb route someone else suggested?

-- 
Regards
Peter
-------------
Peter Samuel            Peter.Samuel@gormand.com.au



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Scott,

Thanks.  I tried that once before, but exec doesn't recognize ulimit. 
Can you give me an example on how this could be done?

Thanks,
Jared

Scott Gifford wrote:
> Peter Samuel <Peter.Samuel@gormand.com.au> writes:
> 
> 
>>Quoting jared <demottjar@yahoo.com>:
>>
>>
>>>Hmm...thanks.  I'll give that a try.  But it doesn't really answer
>>>the question.  Does anyone know how to get core dumps on Linux no
>>>matter what?
>>
>>Use your shell's builtin ulimit command. This is on FC4 using bash as
>>the shell
>>
>>[peters@localhost ~]$ type ulimit
>>ulimit is a shell builtin
> 
> 
> [...]
> 
> 
>>If you wish to have this set permanently, modify /etc/profile
>>accordingly (that's where it is set in FC4, your system may be
>>different).
> 
> 
> Putting an appropriate ulimit command in your qmail-smtpd run file
> should allow you to enable core dumps for qmail-smtpd and its children
> without affecting the rest of the system.
> 
> -----Scott.
> 


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On Tue, 2006-01-03 at 14:55 +0100, lists@peterschen.de wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I'm using qmail with vpopmail and simscan. Via simscan I'm using 
> Spamassassin 3.1. Is there any possibility to move any incoming mails, 
> which are tagged by sa, in a special directory for that perticular 
> domain? Or is this a vpopmail question?
> 
> Regards
> Christoph
> 

This actually belongs to the simscan list, but in short, you might want
to check the simscan options for spam-hits and quarantine dir.

Or, you can play with procmail/maildrop and the $EXT $HOST environmental
variables at dot-qmail.

Again, the best place for this is the simscan list.


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Scott,

Thanks for your kindness.  Didn't work.  Any guesses why?

Smtpd runs as qmaild.  It's run from /var/qmail/bin.  Permissions are:
'755 root qmail' on /var, /var/qmail, and /var/qmail/bin.  Couldn't be a 
permissions thing could it?

Thanks,
Jared



 > Scott,
 >
 > Thanks.  I tried that once before, but exec doesn't recognize
 > ulimit. Can you give me an example on how this could be done?

Just put it before the exec:

     #!/bin/sh
     # ...
     ulimit -c 1000000000 # 1GB Core Files
     exec ...

ulimit is a shell builtin (like chdir), so it affects the running
script, and will then effect any child processes started up.  ulimit's
status as a shell builtin is also why exec doesn't recognize it.  You
can check whether something's a shell builtin with the "type" command:

     $ type ulimit
     ulimit is a shell builtin

----ScottG.

Peter Samuel wrote:
> Quoting jared <demottjar@yahoo.com>:
> 
>> Thanks for the vote of confidence! :)
> 
> 
> My pleasure :)
> 
>>
>> Already tried that -- adding the ulimit to the top of the script. 
>> (actually I used 'ulimit -c unlimited').
>>
>> Didn't work.
> 
> 
> I bet it did - however your program may not have dumped core for other
> reasons.
> 
>> That's when I tried to add the ulimit command as part of the exec 
>> line...thinking that that might somehow help.
> 
> 
> Obviously not - exec doesn't do that.
> 
>>
>> Any ideas?
> 
> 
> Did you try the gdb route someone else suggested?
> 


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technically, u cannot get core dumps no matter what. There is a security
issue with dumping system programs, and programs that belong to other
folks.

If the program is EXEC only, then u *not* gonna get a dump.

If u have permission ( i suppose u need at least read permission ), then
a "ulimit -c unlimited" would better suit your purpose. 1024 blocks is
just 512kb ( maybe a meg if your blocksize is 1024bytes/block ).

And from reading the kernel code there are more ( interesting ) issues
with creating the core file:
 >       file = filp_open(corename, O_CREAT | 2 | O_NOFOLLOW | 
O_LARGEFILE, 0600);
 >         if (IS_ERR(file))
 >                 goto fail_unlock;
 >         inode = file->f_dentry->d_inode;
 >         if (inode->i_nlink > 1)
 >                 goto close_fail;        /* multiple links - don't dump */
 >         if (d_unhashed(file->f_dentry))
 >                 goto close_fail;
 >
 >         if (!S_ISREG(inode->i_mode))
 >                 goto close_fail;
 >         if (!file->f_op)
 >                 goto close_fail;
 >         if (!file->f_op->write)
 >                 goto close_fail;
 >         if (do_truncate(file->f_dentry, 0) != 0)
 >                 goto close_fail;
 >

So if u cant open, is not a regular file, does not have write
permission, unable to truncate file, these also stop core dumps.

changing user id's, and group id's also nullify a core dump.

There are lots of reasons why.  Which one. I can't always tell. But u
can, presuming u can rebuild the kernel, sprinkle printk calls at the
various points (fs/exec.c:do_codedump() ).  U should do this on a system
that you can play with.

And once u know why, u can fix it to always dump core.


FWIW, i have also not been too successfull in getting dumps when I want.
Sometimes this is a "good thing"(tm)  ;-}


jared wrote:
 > Scott,
 >
 > Thanks.  I tried that once before, but exec doesn't recognize ulimit.
 > Can you give me an example on how this could be done?
 >
 > Thanks,
 > Jared
 >
 > Scott Gifford wrote:
 >
 >> Peter Samuel <Peter.Samuel@gormand.com.au> writes:
 >>
 >>
 >>> Quoting jared <demottjar@yahoo.com>:
 >>>
 >>>
 >>>> Hmm...thanks.  I'll give that a try.  But it doesn't really answer
 >>>> the question.  Does anyone know how to get core dumps on Linux no
 >>>> matter what?
 >>>
 >>>
 >>> Use your shell's builtin ulimit command. This is on FC4 using bash as
 >>> the shell
 >>>
 >>> [peters@localhost ~]$ type ulimit
 >>> ulimit is a shell builtin
 >>
 >>
 >>
 >> [...]
 >>
 >>
 >>> If you wish to have this set permanently, modify /etc/profile
 >>> accordingly (that's where it is set in FC4, your system may be
 >>> different).
 >>
 >>
 >>
 >> Putting an appropriate ulimit command in your qmail-smtpd run file
 >> should allow you to enable core dumps for qmail-smtpd and its children
 >> without affecting the rest of the system.
 >>
 >> -----Scott.
 >>
 >
 >
 >




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jared <demottjar@yahoo.com> writes:

> Scott,
>
> Thanks.  I tried that once before, but exec doesn't recognize
> ulimit. Can you give me an example on how this could be done?

Just put it before the exec:

    #!/bin/sh
    # ...
    ulimit -c 1000000000 # 1GB Core Files
    exec ...

ulimit is a shell builtin (like chdir), so it affects the running
script, and will then effect any child processes started up.  ulimit's
status as a shell builtin is also why exec doesn't recognize it.  You
can check whether something's a shell builtin with the "type" command:

    $ type ulimit
    ulimit is a shell builtin

----ScottG.

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On Fri, 30 Dec 2005 10:32:26 -0500
Brian T Glenn <brian-qmail@delink.net> wrote:

> Because rblsmtpd traps the SMTP conversation and doesn't give a chance
> to authenticate, you will have to move the rblsmtpd functionality into
> the qmail-smtpd server. There are some patches out there to do exactly
> this. Check out qmail.org.

Has anyone done this?

I was looking at a qgreylist patch which had greylisting at the
qmail-smtpd server (have not got around to patching yet though).

-- 
Regards, Ed http://www.usenix.org.uk - http://irc.is-cool.net 
:%s/Open Source/Free Software/g

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On Tue, Jan 03, 2006 at 10:56:37PM +0000, ed may have written:
> On Fri, 30 Dec 2005 10:32:26 -0500 Brian T Glenn <brian-qmail@delink.net>=
 wrote:
> >=20
> > There are some patches out there to do exactly
> > this. Check out qmail.org.
>=20
> Has anyone done this?

Fine.

 Jay Soffian has a qmail-queue replacement to filter against DNS=20
spamlists.. It uses Bruce Guenter's QMAILQUEUE patch. Matching email is=20
not rejected, but instead an X-RBL: header is added, for filtering at=20
the delivery layer.

http://qmail.oc1.mirrors.redwire.net/qqrbl

HTH HAND,
--=20
Brian T Glenn
delink.net Internet Services

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On Thu, 2005-29-12 at 21:49 +0000, ed wrote:
> On Wed, 28 Dec 2005 11:37:37 -0700
> Blair Lowe <qmail@domainsunder.ca> wrote:
> 
> > What about a secondary mail server with an
> > empty /etc/qmail/control/virtualdomains.
> > 
> > Will the realrcptto still queue up email when the primary server goes
> > down, or will all mail be rejected because there are no users on that
> > mailserver?
> > 
> > This question would also apply to goodrcpttp and badrcptto.
> 
> Whats wrong with the validrcptto patch
> [http://qmail.jms1.net/patches/validrcptto.cdb.shtml]? Then you can
> distribute the validrcptto.cdb file among your mail servers, maintained
> on a single server, and some scp kung fu.
> 

Thanks,
I'll look at that.

Would I drop realrcptto patch, or be able to have both?

Ideally I want to speed up the server, and also kill spam as it is
getting quite heavy of late.

scp kung fu sounds like a good plan: just hope my server tai chi will
help me not pull security muscles ;)

TTYL,
Blair.


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> -------- Forwarded Message --------
> From: Blair Lowe <qmail@domainsunder.ca>
> To: ed <ed@ednevitible.co.uk>
> Cc: Peter Gutbrod <lists@media-fact.com>, qmail <qmail@list.cr.yp.to>
> Subject: Re: realrcptto patch question
> Date: Tue, 03 Jan 2006 16:04:08 -0700 
> On Thu, 2005-29-12 at 21:49 +0000, ed wrote:
> > On Wed, 28 Dec 2005 11:37:37 -0700
> > Blair Lowe <qmail@domainsunder.ca> wrote:
> > 
> > > What about a secondary mail server with an
> > > empty /etc/qmail/control/virtualdomains.
> > > 
> > > Will the realrcptto still queue up email when the primary server goes
> > > down, or will all mail be rejected because there are no users on that
> > > mailserver?
> > > 
> > > This question would also apply to goodrcpttp and badrcptto.
> > 
> > Whats wrong with the validrcptto patch
> > [http://qmail.jms1.net/patches/validrcptto.cdb.shtml]? Then you can
> > distribute the validrcptto.cdb file among your mail servers, maintained
> > on a single server, and some scp kung fu.
> > 
> 
> Thanks,
> I'll look at that.
> 
> Would I drop realrcptto patch, or be able to have both?
> 
> Ideally I want to speed up the server, and also kill spam as it is
> getting quite heavy of late.
> 
> scp kung fu sounds like a good plan: just hope my server tai chi will
> help me not pull security muscles ;)
> 
> TTYL,
> Blair.

Also, I use vmailmgr, so I assume I'd have to rewrite the mkvalidrcptto
script for that?

Has anyone out there done this?

TTYL,
Blair.


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Subject: OT:  Using qmail List Posts to Enhance Search Engine Rankings
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Question:

I know that some search engines use the total number of links to a site as a
clue about its usefulness.

Would including links in a footer used in mailing list posts enhance search
engine rankings?

Conjectured mechanism:

a)Spider crawls mailing list archives via HTTP, finds links, isn't smart
enough to realize that this is a mailing list post.

b)Statistics for number of sites/pages linking to site is enhanced.

Thanks, Dave.



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Running Freebsd 6.0 with qmail 1.03 under tcpserver. No problems in the pas=
t
runinng several virtual domains. Run spamcontrol install without issue
except I now get all mail rejected (including virtuals) with message
"Reject: RCPT::Failed_Recptto....
Recipients files are in place.
I've read everything and tried a number of possible fixes but simply can no=
t
get this to work properly.

I've also try validrcptto and get the same.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

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<div>Running Freebsd 6.0 with qmail 1.03 under tcpserver. No problems in th=
e past runinng several virtual domains. Run spamcontrol install without iss=
ue except I now get all mail rejected&nbsp;(including virtuals) with messag=
e=20
</div>
<div>&quot;Reject: RCPT::Failed_Recptto....</div>
<div>Recipients files are in place.&nbsp;</div>
<div>I've read everything and tried a number of possible fixes but simply c=
an not get this to work properly.</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>I've also try validrcptto and get the same.</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>Any help would be greatly appreciated.</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>

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jared <demottjar@yahoo.com> writes:

> Scott,
>
> Thanks for your kindness.  Didn't work.  Any guesses why?

It's probably a permissions problem, then.  Maybe qmail-smtpd doesn't
have permission to write in the directory where it's running when it
crashes?  You'll have to poke around and see.

----Scott.

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On Tue, 3 Jan 2006, Charles Cazabon wrote:

> Starting and stopping qmail-send should not have any beneficial effect on
> sending of mail.  If qmail-send is completely wedged, it's generally because
> it's blocked waiting on its logger (disk full or similar).  Otherwise,
> stopping and re-starting qmail-send will just slow down mail throughput, as
> qmail-send has to do a complete queue scan at stop and again at start.

Ahh ok that make sense. Acutally I'm still getting used to the way qmail
does things. I just installed qmail on a test server to see how it works.

But installing a whack of patches just to do certain things is very
confusing.

I have to say in the last 4 yrs of using Postfix, and a few yrs of
Sendmail before that, Qmail is certainly a different animal.

This system uses 3 machines for incoming, outgoing and handling POP. The 3
machines NFS mount a couple of file systems from another machine and
are delivering local mail to the NFS mounts.

> > Most, if not all of the mails were <> null senders.
>
> Sounds like you got a storm of bounces; you may have been the victim of a joe
> job, or perhaps there was a hole in your system (exploitable CGI script, bad
> relaying permissions, etc) that allowed someone to abuse one of your servers
> for sending spam, and you were seeing the splashback.

Thats what I thought as well and its really bogging things down. My guess
its just a joe-job, the systems seem to be locked down pretty well. It
looks like this is a bit of a first judging by past MRTG graphs for these
machines.

Acutally Qmail on one machine keeps stopping which plays havoc as the 3
machines all have the same MX preference.

> > called Overlord. Syslog is one line:
>
> There's one of your problems.  qmail works so fast that it can cause syslog
> to suck up 90%+ of your CPU.  Change your qmail-send configuration to log
> through multilog instead of splogger->syslog.  Then your qmail-send logs will
> be separate and easily analyzable.

Acutally my mistake.

8057  p0  S      0:17.14 /usr/local/bin/multilog t n100 s1000000
 8064  p0  S      0:05.70 /usr/local/bin/multilog t n100 s1000000
 8066  p0  S      0:01.13 /usr/local/bin/multilog t n100 s1000000

multilog is running three different log files. Now to find a log analyzer
and get some stats out of them and see whats going on.

Thanks,
Keith




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On Wednesday 04 January 2006 06:16, Keith Woodworth wrote:
> multilog is running three different log files. Now to find a log
> analyzer and get some stats out of them and see whats going on.

Checkout the the tools on www.qmail.org - I suggest starting with 
qmailanalog (see comments re. converting timestamps from multilog 
format) and mrtg.

cheers,

Andrew.
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Hi,

At 13:49 04.01.2006 +1100, .. wrote:
>Running Freebsd 6.0 with qmail 1.03 under tcpserver. No problems in the 
>past runinng several virtual domains. Run spamcontrol install without 
>issue except I now get all mail rejected (including virtuals) with message
>"Reject: RCPT::Failed_Recptto....
>Recipients files are in place.
>I've read everything and tried a number of possible fixes but simply can 
>not get this to work properly.

The least you should do would is to post the output of "qmail-showctl".

regards.
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See that's what I was talking about in a previous message when I said it 
was "setuid".  What I meant was that doesn't qmail-smptd start life as 
root and than drop to the user qmaild?  If so, I think you're right, I 
believe the linux kernel will not let such a process dump core.  I've 
been doing some googling and supposedly there's a sysctl option to set 
the key "kernel.core_setuid_ok =1", but my systems don't have that key. 
  (I have redhat (2.4.20) and FC (2.6.12))



U. George wrote:
> technically, u cannot get core dumps no matter what. There is a security
> issue with dumping system programs, and programs that belong to other
> folks.
> 
> If the program is EXEC only, then u *not* gonna get a dump.
> 
> If u have permission ( i suppose u need at least read permission ), then
> a "ulimit -c unlimited" would better suit your purpose. 1024 blocks is
> just 512kb ( maybe a meg if your blocksize is 1024bytes/block ).
> 
> And from reading the kernel code there are more ( interesting ) issues
> with creating the core file:
>  >       file = filp_open(corename, O_CREAT | 2 | O_NOFOLLOW | 
> O_LARGEFILE, 0600);
>  >         if (IS_ERR(file))
>  >                 goto fail_unlock;
>  >         inode = file->f_dentry->d_inode;
>  >         if (inode->i_nlink > 1)
>  >                 goto close_fail;        /* multiple links - don't 
> dump */
>  >         if (d_unhashed(file->f_dentry))
>  >                 goto close_fail;
>  >
>  >         if (!S_ISREG(inode->i_mode))
>  >                 goto close_fail;
>  >         if (!file->f_op)
>  >                 goto close_fail;
>  >         if (!file->f_op->write)
>  >                 goto close_fail;
>  >         if (do_truncate(file->f_dentry, 0) != 0)
>  >                 goto close_fail;
>  >
> 
> So if u cant open, is not a regular file, does not have write
> permission, unable to truncate file, these also stop core dumps.
> 
> changing user id's, and group id's also nullify a core dump.
> 
> There are lots of reasons why.  Which one. I can't always tell. But u
> can, presuming u can rebuild the kernel, sprinkle printk calls at the
> various points (fs/exec.c:do_codedump() ).  U should do this on a system
> that you can play with.
> 
> And once u know why, u can fix it to always dump core.
> 
> 
> FWIW, i have also not been too successfull in getting dumps when I want.
> Sometimes this is a "good thing"(tm)  ;-}
> 
> 
> jared wrote:
>  > Scott,
>  >
>  > Thanks.  I tried that once before, but exec doesn't recognize ulimit.
>  > Can you give me an example on how this could be done?
>  >
>  > Thanks,
>  > Jared
>  >
>  > Scott Gifford wrote:
>  >
>  >> Peter Samuel <Peter.Samuel@gormand.com.au> writes:
>  >>
>  >>
>  >>> Quoting jared <demottjar@yahoo.com>:
>  >>>
>  >>>
>  >>>> Hmm...thanks.  I'll give that a try.  But it doesn't really answer
>  >>>> the question.  Does anyone know how to get core dumps on Linux no
>  >>>> matter what?
>  >>>
>  >>>
>  >>> Use your shell's builtin ulimit command. This is on FC4 using bash as
>  >>> the shell
>  >>>
>  >>> [peters@localhost ~]$ type ulimit
>  >>> ulimit is a shell builtin
>  >>
>  >>
>  >>
>  >> [...]
>  >>
>  >>
>  >>> If you wish to have this set permanently, modify /etc/profile
>  >>> accordingly (that's where it is set in FC4, your system may be
>  >>> different).
>  >>
>  >>
>  >>
>  >> Putting an appropriate ulimit command in your qmail-smtpd run file
>  >> should allow you to enable core dumps for qmail-smtpd and its children
>  >> without affecting the rest of the system.
>  >>
>  >> -----Scott.
>  >>
>  >
>  >
>  >
> 
> 
> 
> 


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Doesn't it run from /var/qmail/bin?  I set that to 777 and still no dump.

Scott Gifford wrote:
> jared <demottjar@yahoo.com> writes:
> 
> 
>>Scott,
>>
>>Thanks for your kindness.  Didn't work.  Any guesses why?
> 
> 
> It's probably a permissions problem, then.  Maybe qmail-smtpd doesn't
> have permission to write in the directory where it's running when it
> crashes?  You'll have to poke around and see.
> 
> ----Scott.
> 


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jared wrote:
> See that's what I was talking about in a previous message when I said it 
> was "setuid".  What I meant was that doesn't qmail-smptd start life as 
> root and than drop to the user qmaild?  If so, I think you're right, I 
> believe the linux kernel will not let such a process dump core.  I've 
> been doing some googling and supposedly there's a sysctl option to set 
> the key "kernel.core_setuid_ok =1", but my systems don't have that key. 
>  (I have redhat (2.4.20) and FC (2.6.12))

Great, now you know more about core dumps under a Linux based operating 
system. Do you HAVE to get a core dump?

What is wrong with trying to debug your modified qmail-smtpd with gdb? I 
don't bother trying to get a core dump for my buggy programs. Just 
recompile with -ggdb3 and run them under gdb and then give myself a smack :)

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jared wrote:
> Doesn't it run from /var/qmail/bin?  I set that to 777 and still no dump.
> 

???

I'd imagine under /service if you are using daemontools....

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I saw that also, but dont know if that sys-call is priv'd . Even if u 
can set it, that would be only one flag of many that you have overcome.
u still have to have ulimit -c ######, writable core, permissions, .... 
all the requirements in the core dump routine.

At one time core dumps littered the unix file system.

i guess i dont understand. the over-ride i saw was in 2.6.10.

on one hand u have:
>         if (current->euid == current->uid && current->egid == current->gid)
>                 current->mm->dumpable = 1;

and then flag is taken away:
>         if (bprm->e_uid != current->euid || bprm->e_gid != current->egid ||
>             permission(bprm->file->f_dentry->d_inode,MAY_READ, NULL) ||
>             (bprm->interp_flags & BINPRM_FLAGS_ENFORCE_NONDUMP)) {
>                 suid_keys(current);
>                 current->mm->dumpable = 0;
>         }

And then to have the user get/set flag ( in kernel/sys.c:sys_prctl() ) :
>                 case PR_GET_DUMPABLE:
>                         if (current->mm->dumpable)
>                                 error = 1;
>                         break;
>                 case PR_SET_DUMPABLE:
>                         if (arg2 != 0 && arg2 != 1) {
>                                 error = -EINVAL;
>                                 break;
>                         }
>                         current->mm->dumpable = arg2;
>                         break;


BTW: all this appears to be really off-topic. Just want to let u know 
just in case u thought this was a kernel discuss list. Good Luck.


jared wrote:
> See that's what I was talking about in a previous message when I said it 
> was "setuid".  What I meant was that doesn't qmail-smptd start life as 
> root and than drop to the user qmaild?  If so, I think you're right, I 
> believe the linux kernel will not let such a process dump core.  I've 
> been doing some googling and supposedly there's a sysctl option to set 
> the key "kernel.core_setuid_ok =1", but my systems don't have that key. 
>  (I have redhat (2.4.20) and FC (2.6.12))
> 
> 
> 
> U. George wrote:
> 
>> technically, u cannot get core dumps no matter what. There is a security
>> issue with dumping system programs, and programs that belong to other
>> folks.
>>
>> If the program is EXEC only, then u *not* gonna get a dump.
>>
>> If u have permission ( i suppose u need at least read permission ), then
>> a "ulimit -c unlimited" would better suit your purpose. 1024 blocks is
>> just 512kb ( maybe a meg if your blocksize is 1024bytes/block ).
>>
>> And from reading the kernel code there are more ( interesting ) issues
>> with creating the core file:
>>  >       file = filp_open(corename, O_CREAT | 2 | O_NOFOLLOW | 
>> O_LARGEFILE, 0600);
>>  >         if (IS_ERR(file))
>>  >                 goto fail_unlock;
>>  >         inode = file->f_dentry->d_inode;
>>  >         if (inode->i_nlink > 1)
>>  >                 goto close_fail;        /* multiple links - don't 
>> dump */
>>  >         if (d_unhashed(file->f_dentry))
>>  >                 goto close_fail;
>>  >
>>  >         if (!S_ISREG(inode->i_mode))
>>  >                 goto close_fail;
>>  >         if (!file->f_op)
>>  >                 goto close_fail;
>>  >         if (!file->f_op->write)
>>  >                 goto close_fail;
>>  >         if (do_truncate(file->f_dentry, 0) != 0)
>>  >                 goto close_fail;
>>  >
>>
>> So if u cant open, is not a regular file, does not have write
>> permission, unable to truncate file, these also stop core dumps.
>>
>> changing user id's, and group id's also nullify a core dump.
>>
>> There are lots of reasons why.  Which one. I can't always tell. But u
>> can, presuming u can rebuild the kernel, sprinkle printk calls at the
>> various points (fs/exec.c:do_codedump() ).  U should do this on a system
>> that you can play with.
>>
>> And once u know why, u can fix it to always dump core.
>>
>>
>> FWIW, i have also not been too successfull in getting dumps when I want.
>> Sometimes this is a "good thing"(tm)  ;-}
>>
>>
>> jared wrote:
>>  > Scott,
>>  >
>>  > Thanks.  I tried that once before, but exec doesn't recognize ulimit.
>>  > Can you give me an example on how this could be done?
>>  >
>>  > Thanks,
>>  > Jared
>>  >
>>  > Scott Gifford wrote:
>>  >
>>  >> Peter Samuel <Peter.Samuel@gormand.com.au> writes:
>>  >>
>>  >>
>>  >>> Quoting jared <demottjar@yahoo.com>:
>>  >>>
>>  >>>
>>  >>>> Hmm...thanks.  I'll give that a try.  But it doesn't really answer
>>  >>>> the question.  Does anyone know how to get core dumps on Linux no
>>  >>>> matter what?
>>  >>>
>>  >>>
>>  >>> Use your shell's builtin ulimit command. This is on FC4 using 
>> bash as
>>  >>> the shell
>>  >>>
>>  >>> [peters@localhost ~]$ type ulimit
>>  >>> ulimit is a shell builtin
>>  >>
>>  >>
>>  >>
>>  >> [...]
>>  >>
>>  >>
>>  >>> If you wish to have this set permanently, modify /etc/profile
>>  >>> accordingly (that's where it is set in FC4, your system may be
>>  >>> different).
>>  >>
>>  >>
>>  >>
>>  >> Putting an appropriate ulimit command in your qmail-smtpd run file
>>  >> should allow you to enable core dumps for qmail-smtpd and its 
>> children
>>  >> without affecting the rest of the system.
>>  >>
>>  >> -----Scott.
>>  >>
>>  >
>>  >
>>  >
>>
>>
>>
>>
> 
> 
> 



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I my very first post I mentioned why I needed a core.

Feizhou wrote:
> jared wrote:
> 
>> See that's what I was talking about in a previous message when I said 
>> it was "setuid".  What I meant was that doesn't qmail-smptd start life 
>> as root and than drop to the user qmaild?  If so, I think you're 
>> right, I believe the linux kernel will not let such a process dump 
>> core.  I've been doing some googling and supposedly there's a sysctl 
>> option to set the key "kernel.core_setuid_ok =1", but my systems don't 
>> have that key.  (I have redhat (2.4.20) and FC (2.6.12))
> 
> 
> Great, now you know more about core dumps under a Linux based operating 
> system. Do you HAVE to get a core dump?
> 
> What is wrong with trying to debug your modified qmail-smtpd with gdb? I 
> don't bother trying to get a core dump for my buggy programs. Just 
> recompile with -ggdb3 and run them under gdb and then give myself a 
> smack :)
> 


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+ jared <demottjar@yahoo.com>:

| See that's what I was talking about in a previous message when I
| said it was "setuid".  What I meant was that doesn't qmail-smptd
| start life as root and than drop to the user qmaild?

Uh, I'm surprised nobody called you on that before.  Maybe the noise
level is too high - I haven't been following this thread, I just
visited it now to see what all the hullaballoo is about.  Be that as
it may, there is only one suid program in the entire qmail family, and
that is qmail-queue.  (And it's suid qmailq, not suid root.)  The only
long-running daemon that runs as root is qmail-lspawn.  qmail-smtpd
usually runs as user qmaild.  In the normal setup, tcpserver runs as
root (so it can bind to port 25), then changes to qmaild before
starting qmail-smtpd.

+ jared <demottjar@yahoo.com>:

| Doesn't it run from /var/qmail/bin?

No, /var/qmail.  Look in qmail-smtpd.c:

void main()
{
  sig_pipeignore();
  if (chdir(auto_qmail) == -1) die_control();

Or if that is too much work, what about strace?
(This is linux, if I recall correctly?  You have strace?)

$ strace -e trace=chdir /var/qmail/bin/qmail-smtpd 
chdir("/var/qmail")                     = 0
220 decibel.pvv.ntnu.no ESMTP
quit
221 decibel.pvv.ntnu.no

- Harald

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jared wrote:
> I my very first post I mentioned why I needed a core.

you cannot share a -ggdb3 enabled qmail-smtpd? Anyways, try making 
/var/qmail, or wherever you installed qmail, writable by qmail-smtpd's 
user if that is what you really want. qmail-smtpd will change directory 
to whereever conf-qmail instructs at compile time.

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jared wrote:
 > I my very first post I mentioned why I needed a core.

I, myself, didnt read that post.


But I think that the gdb suggest is a better way ( maybe ).
1) create the program with debug symbols.
2) run it as you would normally ( script or what ever )
3) on another terminal,as root,  locate the process id of the program 
you want to catch the core dump ( presuming that it didnt dump 
immediately ).
4) as root, run 'gdb program-to-debug PROCESS-ID" . gdb will attach the 
running program as if it was its own.
5) type in c ( to continue running ) . Program will continue running, 
but under the control of gdb.
6) wait for fault to happen.  gdb will wake up when fault happens.
7) if this is a live q-mail system, then u might want to react fairly 
fast, as upset users tend to voice their fustrations at near the speed 
of light. ;-/

jared wrote:
> I my very first post I mentioned why I needed a core.
> 
> Feizhou wrote:

>>
>> What is wrong with trying to debug your modified qmail-smtpd with gdb? 
>> I don't bother trying to get a core dump for my buggy programs. Just 
>> recompile with -ggdb3 and run them under gdb and then give myself a 
>> smack :)
>>
> 
> 
> 



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You da man.  If you make /var/qmail 777 (writable) qmail-smtpd will dump 
core.  So scratch all that other effective id talk, it never changes 
it's id.

Peace,
Jared

Harald Hanche-Olsen wrote:
> + jared <demottjar@yahoo.com>:
> 
> | See that's what I was talking about in a previous message when I
> | said it was "setuid".  What I meant was that doesn't qmail-smptd
> | start life as root and than drop to the user qmaild?
> 
> Uh, I'm surprised nobody called you on that before.  Maybe the noise
> level is too high - I haven't been following this thread, I just
> visited it now to see what all the hullaballoo is about.  Be that as
> it may, there is only one suid program in the entire qmail family, and
> that is qmail-queue.  (And it's suid qmailq, not suid root.)  The only
> long-running daemon that runs as root is qmail-lspawn.  qmail-smtpd
> usually runs as user qmaild.  In the normal setup, tcpserver runs as
> root (so it can bind to port 25), then changes to qmaild before
> starting qmail-smtpd.
> 
> + jared <demottjar@yahoo.com>:
> 
> | Doesn't it run from /var/qmail/bin?
> 
> No, /var/qmail.  Look in qmail-smtpd.c:
> 
> void main()
> {
>   sig_pipeignore();
>   if (chdir(auto_qmail) == -1) die_control();
> 
> Or if that is too much work, what about strace?
> (This is linux, if I recall correctly?  You have strace?)
> 
> $ strace -e trace=chdir /var/qmail/bin/qmail-smtpd 
> chdir("/var/qmail")                     = 0
> 220 decibel.pvv.ntnu.no ESMTP
> quit
> 221 decibel.pvv.ntnu.no
> 
> - Harald
> 


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jared wrote:
> You da man.  If you make /var/qmail 777 (writable) qmail-smtpd will dump 
> core.  So scratch all that other effective id talk, it never changes 
> it's id.
> 
> Peace,

Until you get some nice stuff under /var/qmail. Have you heard of kernel 
exploits where local users get themselves root privileges?

Enjoy your core dumping.

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> But I think that the gdb suggest is a better way ( maybe ).
> 1) create the program with debug symbols.
> 2) run it as you would normally ( script or what ever )

I'd rather run it under gdb itself. gdb qmail-smtpd to get into the gdb 
shell and then execute qmail-smtpd.

> 6) wait for fault to happen.  gdb will wake up when fault happens.

Simulate a smtp session. helo dude, blah blah blah.

Why expose a buggy program to others?

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At 13:49 04.01.2006 +1100, .. wrote:
>Running Freebsd 6.0 with qmail 1.03 under tcpserver. No problems in the
past runinng several virtual domains. Run spamcontrol install without issue
except I >now get all mail rejected (including virtuals) with message
>"Reject: RCPT::Failed_Recptto....
>Recipients files are in place.
>I've read everything and tried a number of possible fixes but simply can
not get this to work properly.

The least you should do would is to post the output of "qmail-showctl".


regards.
--eh.


I have changed over to Outlook as it appears Gmail & the list are not very
compatible. I hope the following is better than the garbled mess that comes
back from the list with gmail.


Thank you for your response and my apologies for leaving off some
information to begin with.

qmail-showctl follows. I disabled the badmailfrom to limit the output.



qmail home directory: /var/qmail.
user-ext delimiter: -.
paternalism (in decimal): 2.
silent concurrency limit: 120.
subdirectory split: 23.
user ids: 81, 82, 83, 0, 84, 85, 86, 87.
group ids: 81, 82.

authsenders: (Default.) No authenticated SMTP senders.

badhelo: (Default.) Any HELO/EHLO greeting is allowed.

badmailfrom: (Default.) Any MAIL FROM is allowed.

badloadertypes: (Default.) Any loader types are accepted.

badloadertypes.cdb: (Default.) No effect.

badmimetypes: (Default.) Any MIME types are accepted.

badmimetypes.cdb: (Default.) No effect.

badrcptto: (Default.) Any RCPT TO is allowed.

bouncefrom: (Default.) Bounce user name is MAILER-DAEMON.

bouncehost: (Default.) Bounce host name is theguru.abcd.com.au.

bouncemaxbytes: Bounce size limit is 2500 bytes.

concurrencylocal: (Default.) Local concurrency is 10.

concurrencyremote: (Default.) Remote concurrency is 20.

databytes: SMTP DATA limit is 2000000 bytes.

defaultdomain: Default domain name is abcd.com.au.

defaulthost: (Default.) Default host name is theguru.abcd.com.au.

doublebouncehost: (Default.) 2B recipient host: theguru.abcd.com.au.

doublebounceto: (Default.) 2B recipient user: postmaster.

envnoathost: (Default.) Presumed domain name is theguru.abcd.com.au.

helohost: (Default.) SMTP client HELO host name is theguru.abcd.com.au.

idhost: (Default.) Message-ID host name is theguru.abcd.com.au.

localiphost: (Default.) Local IP address becomes theguru.abcd.com.au.

locals:
Messages for localhost are delivered locally.
Messages for localhost.abcd.com.au are delivered locally.
Messages for michae34.lnk.telstra.net are delivered locally.
Messages for TheGuru.abcd.com.au are delivered locally.
Messages for theguru.abcd.com.au are delivered locally.
Messages for ns.abcd.com.au are delivered locally.
Messages for mail.abcd.com.au are delivered locally.
Messages for michael are delivered locally.

me: My name is theguru.abcd.com.au.

moreipme: (Default.) No additional IP addresses are me.

notipme: (Default.) All of my IP addresses are me.

percenthack: (Default.) The percent hack is not allowed.

plusdomain: Plus domain name is abcd.com.au.

qmqpservers: (Default.) No QMQP servers.

queuelifetime: (Default.) Message lifetime in the queue is 604800 seconds.

rcpthosts:
SMTP clients may send messages to recipients at localhost.
SMTP clients may send messages to recipients at abcd.com.au.
SMTP clients may send messages to recipients at michae34.lnk.telstra.net.
SMTP clients may send messages to recipients at TheGuru.abcd.com.au.
SMTP clients may send messages to recipients at theguru.abcd.com.au.
SMTP clients may send messages to recipients at ns.abcd.com.au.
SMTP clients may send messages to recipients at mail.abcd.com.au.
SMTP clients may send messages to recipients at nardella.com.
SMTP clients may send messages to recipients at nardella.com.au .
SMTP clients may send messages to recipients at nard.com.au.
SMTP clients may send messages to recipients at pro-motion.com.
SMTP clients may send messages to recipients at oepmg.org.au.
SMTP clients may send messages to recipients at nardella.biz.

morercpthosts: (Default.) No effect.

morercpthosts.cdb: (Default.) No effect.

recipients:
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/users/recipients.cdb.
SMTP clients may send messages to local recipients listed in
/users/nardella.com.cdb.
SMTP clients may send messages to local recipients listed in
/users/nardella.com.au.cdb.

smtpgreeting: (Default.) SMTP greeting: 220 theguru.abcd.com.au.

smtproutes: (Default.) No artificial SMTP routes.

timeoutconnect: (Default.) SMTP client connection timeout is 60 seconds.

timeoutremote: (Default.) SMTP client data timeout is 1200 seconds.

timeoutsmtpd: (Default.) SMTP server data timeout is 1200 seconds.

virtualdomains:
Virtual domain: nardella.com:nardella.com
Virtual domain: oepmg.org.au:oepmg
Virtual domain: nardella.com.au:nardella.com
Virtual domain: nardella.biz:nardella.com
Virtual domain: nard.com.au:nardella.com
Virtual domain: pro-motion.com:nardella.com

tarpitcount: Actual Tarpitcount: 5.

tarpitdelay: Actual Tarpitdelay: 10.

defaultdelivery: I have no idea what this file does.

badmailfrom.bak: I have no idea what this file does.

concurrencyincoming: I have no idea what this file does.

recipients.cdb: I have no idea what this file does.

validrcptto.cdb: I have no idea what this file does.

validrcptto: I have no idea what this file does.

- -  -
Thanks

 Michael


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Thanks.  This is a test system not connected to anything, so don't fear.

Thanks all!

ps the ulimit at the top of run scripts was also needed.

Feizhou wrote:
> jared wrote:
> 
>> You da man.  If you make /var/qmail 777 (writable) qmail-smtpd will 
>> dump core.  So scratch all that other effective id talk, it never 
>> changes it's id.
>>
>> Peace,
> 
> 
> Until you get some nice stuff under /var/qmail. Have you heard of kernel 
> exploits where local users get themselves root privileges?
> 
> Enjoy your core dumping.
> 


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Hello List:

RH 9, qmail-1.05

We are going to outsource our dial-in services. Presently, when we setup
an account, we use UID/PW combination. When we outsource the dial-in
services, we are supposed to use the email address as UID.

For example; my UID is 'kbajwa', the new UID (for outsource) is
'kbajwa@tibonline.net'. However when try adding the UID of
'kbajwa@tibonline.net', I get an error message "The user name
'kbajwa@tibonline.net" contains punctuation characters. Please do not
use punctuation in the user name.". What is the solution?

It may be LINUX problem. If it is, then, what qmail users suggest I
should do?

FYI, I am soon planning to switch from RH Linux to CentOS. I can easily
setup qmail on a CestOS server if that will solve the problem. 

Thank you for any suggestion!

Kirti


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<P ALIGN=3DLEFT><SPAN LANG=3D"en-us"><FONT SIZE=3D2 =
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<P ALIGN=3DLEFT><SPAN LANG=3D"en-us"><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">We =
are going to outsource our dial-in services. Presently, when we setup an =
account, we use UID/PW combination.</FONT></SPAN><SPAN =
LANG=3D"en-us"></SPAN><SPAN LANG=3D"en-us"><FONT SIZE=3D2 =
FACE=3D"Arial"> When we outsource the dial-in services, we are supposed =
to use the email address as UID.</FONT></SPAN></P>

<P ALIGN=3DLEFT><SPAN LANG=3D"en-us"><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">For =
example; my UID is</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG=3D"en-us"></SPAN><SPAN =
LANG=3D"en-us"> <FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&#8216;</FONT></SPAN><SPAN =
LANG=3D"en-us"></SPAN><SPAN LANG=3D"en-us"><FONT SIZE=3D2 =
FACE=3D"Arial">kbajwa</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG=3D"en-us"></SPAN><SPAN =
LANG=3D"en-us"><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&#8217;</FONT></SPAN><SPAN =
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FACE=3D"Arial">&#8216;</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG=3D"en-us"></SPAN><SPAN =
LANG=3D"en-us"><FONT SIZE=3D2 =
FACE=3D"Arial">kbajwa@tibonline.net</FONT></SPAN><SPAN =
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FACE=3D"Arial">&#8217;</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG=3D"en-us"></SPAN><SPAN =
LANG=3D"en-us"><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">. However =
when</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG=3D"en-us"></SPAN><SPAN LANG=3D"en-us"> =
<FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">try adding the UID of</FONT></SPAN><SPAN =
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FACE=3D"Arial">&#8216;</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG=3D"en-us"></SPAN><SPAN =
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LANG=3D"en-us"><FONT SIZE=3D2 =
FACE=3D"Arial">kbajwa@tibonline.net</FONT></SPAN><SPAN =
LANG=3D"en-us"></SPAN><SPAN LANG=3D"en-us"><FONT SIZE=3D2 =
FACE=3D"Arial">&#8221;</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG=3D"en-us"></SPAN><SPAN =
LANG=3D"en-us"><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial"> =
contains</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG=3D"en-us"></SPAN><SPAN LANG=3D"en-us"> =
<FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">punctuation</FONT></SPAN><SPAN =
LANG=3D"en-us"></SPAN><SPAN LANG=3D"en-us"><FONT SIZE=3D2 =
FACE=3D"Arial"> characters. Please do not use punctuation in the user =
name.</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG=3D"en-us"></SPAN><SPAN =
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LANG=3D"en-us"></SPAN><SPAN LANG=3D"en-us"><FONT SIZE=3D2 =
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<P ALIGN=3DLEFT><SPAN LANG=3D"en-us"><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">FYI, =
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On Wednesday 04 January 2006 08:28, you wrote:
> Hello List:
>
> RH 9, qmail-1.05
>
> We are going to outsource our dial-in services. Presently, when we setup
> an account, we use UID/PW combination. When we outsource the dial-in
> services, we are supposed to use the email address as UID.

ok.

> For example; my UID is 'kbajwa', the new UID (for outsource) is
> 'kbajwa@tibonline.net'. However when try adding the UID of
> 'kbajwa@tibonline.net', I get an error message "The user name
> 'kbajwa@tibonline.net" contains punctuation characters. Please do not
> use punctuation in the user name.". What is the solution?

adding the UID to what?  doesn't sound like a qmail problem to me, but you=
=20
have a lot going on in this email and haven't been very specific.

> It may be LINUX problem. If it is, then, what qmail users suggest I
> should do?
>
> FYI, I am soon planning to switch from RH Linux to CentOS. I can easily
> setup qmail on a CestOS server if that will solve the problem.

you do realize that centos IS redhat, correct?

=2DJeremy
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>> adding the UID to what?  

When I add a new user, that's when UID, Password & user name are added
to the system. 

>> you do realize that centos IS redhat, correct?

Yes.

Kirti

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 12:12 PM
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> For example; my UID is 'kbajwa', the new UID (for outsource) is
> 'kbajwa@tibonline.net'. However when try adding the UID of
> 'kbajwa@tibonline.net', I get an error message "The user name
> 'kbajwa@tibonline.net" contains punctuation characters. Please do not
> use punctuation in the user name.". What is the solution?

adding the UID to what?  doesn't sound like a qmail problem to me, but
you 
have a lot going on in this email and haven't been very specific.

> It may be LINUX problem. If it is, then, what qmail users suggest I
> should do?
>
> FYI, I am soon planning to switch from RH Linux to CentOS. I can
easily
> setup qmail on a CestOS server if that will solve the problem.

you do realize that centos IS redhat, correct?

-Jeremy
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Lots of programs fork() off, and detach. Lots of programs are piped. 
There are many reasons why that process is very appropriate.

I suppose, the person who is dealing with this issue, is already dealing 
with a buggy program. and can either recreate the issue as a simulation, 
if at all possible, or has to be done in real-time.



Feizhou wrote:
> 
>> But I think that the gdb suggest is a better way ( maybe ).
>> 1) create the program with debug symbols.
>> 2) run it as you would normally ( script or what ever )
> 
> 
> I'd rather run it under gdb itself. gdb qmail-smtpd to get into the gdb 
> shell and then execute qmail-smtpd.
> 
>> 6) wait for fault to happen.  gdb will wake up when fault happens.
> 
> 
> Simulate a smtp session. helo dude, blah blah blah.
> 
> Why expose a buggy program to others?
> 
> 



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On Wed, 2006-01-04 at 13:24 -0500, Kirti S. Bajwa wrote:
> When I add a new user, that's when UID, Password & user name are added
> to the system. 
Why not consider using something like vpopmail to NOT have to add a real
Linux UserID to the system to support an email address.

Vpopmail provides virtual domain support (even if you only have one
domain), and you never add a real user to the Linux system.

-- 
Bill Gradwohl



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Because it messes up the flow of reading.
> How come?
> > I prefer to reply inline.
> > > What do you do instead?
> > > > No.
> > > > > Do you like top-posting?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top_posting

Please read and comply.

On Wednesday 04 January 2006 10:24, you wrote:
> >> adding the UID to what?
>
> When I add a new user, that's when UID, Password & user name are added
> to the system.

"to the system"

in your original post you referred to two different systems (or so, it seem=
ed=20
like you did): your email server, and your dialup service system.

You'll have to be more specific as to which one you are referring to when y=
ou=20
are referring to one or the other.

=2DJeremy
=2D-=20
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Wednesday January 04 2006 11:28, Kirti S. Bajwa wrote to All:


 KB> For example; my UID is 'kbajwa', the new UID (for outsource) is
 KB> 'kbajwa@tibonline.net'. However when try adding the UID of
 KB> 'kbajwa@tibonline.net', I get an error message "The user name
 KB> 'kbajwa@tibonline.net" contains punctuation characters. Please do 
 KB> not
 KB> use punctuation in the user name.". What is the solution?


Looks like you have confused LOCAL and VIRTUAL users.


Kari Suomela

   KARICO Business Services
   Toronto, ON Canada
   http://www.karico.ca

... A feature is a bug with seniority.


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Hi,

For all who are interested, I created a cdb-0.75-1 rpm suitable for OSes
like CentOS.

http://www.computerengineering.ca/download/specs/cdb.spec

TTYL,
Blair.

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Hey all,

I have been on this list for awhile now and I got some good information 
a long time ago but I can't remember what it was exactly. I am running 
into the same trouble again and I was wondering if that same someone 
that answered my question last time would be watching ths list still.

My problem is: every queue cycle (7 days) I have to reboot my server. I 
can't just start and stop the services I acctually have to reboot for 
everything to work correctly. Now the answer was on line 318 in a script 
file for qmail send (I think). If I remember correctly I needed to 
remove the remarks on that line that had to do with clamav?  Does this 
ring a bell to anyone?

If someone would be so kind to enlighten me on the exact file location 
in the /var and the line number edit I would be greatful!


-Blake-

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On Wed, 2006-01-04 at 23:46 -0600, Blake wrote:

> My problem is: every queue cycle (7 days) I have to reboot my server. I 
> can't just start and stop the services I acctually have to reboot for 
> everything to work correctly. Now the answer was on line 318 in a script 
> file for qmail send (I think). If I remember correctly I needed to 
> remove the remarks on that line that had to do with clamav?  Does this 
> ring a bell to anyone?

http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=qmail&m=111324369707004&w=2

You discussed a periodic hang in this thread but indicated that
it was an IMAP issue.  As qmail has no IMAP component it's
unlikely you received the detailed info you are looking for
through this list.  Perhaps you received it off-line or from
another list.

If it is a qmail issue, you would need to follow Charles'
advice.

Rick.


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Is there anyway I can disable qmail from sending a failure notice?  I 
have a rather complex situation between sites (and companies!) where 
they insist on global groups that include users that don't exist on this 
particular server.

Alternatively thsi could be a fetchmail issue but not really sure....

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Ifan Jones <ifan@solet.co.uk> wrote:
> Is there anyway I can disable qmail from sending a failure notice? 

Everything's possible, but completely disabling bounces is a very bad idea --
you'll never have any indication if a given message had a typo in its
recipient addresses, or if the intended recipient was over quota, or ...

> I have a rather complex situation between sites (and companies!) where they
> insist on global groups that include users that don't exist on this
> particular server.

That's a different kettle of fish, and should be solved in a different manner.
If you look in the qmail list archives, you'll see many discusses of various
approaches to distributing a domain across various sites, each with its own
server.  qmail-ldap is one way to go; using named sub-domains with vanilla
qmail and some intelligent .qmail file handling is another, more
administration-intensive way to do this.

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Has anyone implemented Single Instance Storage
(SIS) in qmail ?
(For eg. attachments sent to multiple recipients
saved once
rather than multiple times)

Any link/help would be appreciated.

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-----Original Message-----
From: .. [mailto:theguru1@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, 5 January 2006 10:20 PM
To: theguru1@optusnet.com.au
Cc: Erwin Hoffmann; qmail@list.cr.yp.to
Subject: Re: Spamcontrol rejecting all mail



On 1/5/06, Michael < HYPERLINK =
"mailto:theguru1@optusnet.com.au"theguru1@optusnet.com.au> wrote:=20

At 13:49 04.01.2006 +1100, .. wrote:
>Running Freebsd 6.0 with qmail 1.03 under tcpserver. No problems in the =

past runinng several virtual domains. Run spamcontrol install without =
issue
except I >now get all mail rejected (including virtuals) with message
>"Reject: RCPT::Failed_Recptto....
>Recipients files are in place.=20
>I've read everything and tried a number of possible fixes but simply =
can
not get this to work properly.

The least you should do would is to post the output of "qmail-showctl".


regards.=20
--eh.


I have changed over to Outlook as it appears Gmail & the list are not =
very
compatible. I hope the following is better than the garbled mess that =
comes
back from the list with gmail.


Thank you for your response and my apologies for leaving off some
information to begin with.

qmail-showctl follows. I disabled the badmailfrom to limit the output.



qmail home directory: /var/qmail.=20
user-ext delimiter: -.
paternalism (in decimal): 2.
silent concurrency limit: 120.
subdirectory split: 23.
user ids: 81, 82, 83, 0, 84, 85, 86, 87.
group ids: 81, 82.

authsenders: (Default.) No authenticated SMTP senders.=20

badhelo: (Default.) Any HELO/EHLO greeting is allowed.

badmailfrom: (Default.) Any MAIL FROM is allowed.

badloadertypes: (Default.) Any loader types are accepted.

badloadertypes.cdb: (Default.) No effect.=20

badmimetypes: (Default.) Any MIME types are accepted.

badmimetypes.cdb: (Default.) No effect.

badrcptto: (Default.) Any RCPT TO is allowed.

bouncefrom: (Default.) Bounce user name is MAILER-DAEMON.=20

bouncehost: (Default.) Bounce host name is HYPERLINK =
"http://theguru.abcd.com.au"theguru.abcd.com.au.

bouncemaxbytes: Bounce size limit is 2500 bytes.

concurrencylocal: (Default.) Local concurrency is 10.=20

concurrencyremote: (Default.) Remote concurrency is 20.

databytes: SMTP DATA limit is 2000000 bytes.

defaultdomain: Default domain name is HYPERLINK =
"http://abcd.com.au"abcd.com.au.

defaulthost: (Default.) Default host name is HYPERLINK =
"http://theguru.abcd.com.au"theguru.abcd.com.au.

doublebouncehost: (Default.) 2B recipient host: HYPERLINK =
"http://theguru.abcd.com.au"theguru.abcd.com.au.

doublebounceto: (Default.) 2B recipient user: postmaster.=20

envnoathost: (Default.) Presumed domain name is HYPERLINK =
"http://theguru.abcd.com.au"theguru.abcd.com.au.

helohost: (Default.) SMTP client HELO host name is HYPERLINK =
"http://theguru.abcd.com.au"theguru.abcd.com.au .

idhost: (Default.) Message-ID host name is HYPERLINK =
"http://theguru.abcd.com.au"theguru.abcd.com.au.

localiphost: (Default.) Local IP address becomes HYPERLINK =
"http://theguru.abcd.com.au"theguru.abcd.com.au .

locals:
Messages for localhost are delivered locally.
Messages for HYPERLINK =
"http://localhost.abcd.com.au"localhost.abcd.com.au are delivered =
locally.
Messages for HYPERLINK =
"http://michae34.lnk.telstra.net"michae34.lnk.telstra.net are delivered =
locally.
Messages for HYPERLINK "http://TheGuru.abcd.com.au"TheGuru.abcd.com.au =
are delivered locally.
Messages for HYPERLINK "http://theguru.abcd.com.au"theguru.abcd.com.au =
are delivered locally.
Messages for HYPERLINK "http://ns.abcd.com.au"ns.abcd.com.au are =
delivered locally.
Messages for HYPERLINK "http://mail.abcd.com.au"mail.abcd.com.au are =
delivered locally.
Messages for michael are delivered locally.=20

me: My name is HYPERLINK =
"http://theguru.abcd.com.au"theguru.abcd.com.au.

moreipme: (Default.) No additional IP addresses are me.

notipme: (Default.) All of my IP addresses are me.

percenthack: (Default.) The percent hack is not allowed.=20

plusdomain: Plus domain name is HYPERLINK =
"http://abcd.com.au"abcd.com.au.

qmqpservers: (Default.) No QMQP servers.

queuelifetime: (Default.) Message lifetime in the queue is 604800 =
seconds.

rcpthosts:
SMTP clients may send messages to recipients at localhost.
SMTP clients may send messages to recipients at HYPERLINK =
"http://abcd.com.au"abcd.com.au.
SMTP clients may send messages to recipients at HYPERLINK =
"http://michae34.lnk.telstra.net"michae34.lnk.telstra.net.
SMTP clients may send messages to recipients at HYPERLINK =
"http://TheGuru.abcd.com.au"TheGuru.abcd.com.au.
SMTP clients may send messages to recipients at HYPERLINK =
"http://theguru.abcd.com.au"theguru.abcd.com.au.
SMTP clients may send messages to recipients at HYPERLINK =
"http://ns.abcd.com.au"ns.abcd.com.au.
SMTP clients may send messages to recipients at HYPERLINK =
"http://mail.abcd.com.au"mail.abcd.com.au.
SMTP clients may send messages to recipients at HYPERLINK =
"http://nardella.com"nardella.com.
SMTP clients may send messages to recipients at HYPERLINK =
"http://nardella.com.au"nardella.com.au .
SMTP clients may send messages to recipients at HYPERLINK =
"http://nard.com.au"nard.com.au.
SMTP clients may send messages to recipients at HYPERLINK =
"http://pro-motion.com"pro-motion.com.
SMTP clients may send messages to recipients at HYPERLINK =
"http://oepmg.org.au"oepmg.org.au.
SMTP clients may send messages to recipients at HYPERLINK =
"http://nardella.biz"nardella.biz.

morercpthosts: (Default.) No effect.

morercpthosts.cdb: (Default.) No effect.=20

recipients:
SMTP clients may send messages to local recipients listed in
/users/recipients.cdb.
SMTP clients may send messages to local recipients listed in
/users/nardella.com.cdb.
SMTP clients may send messages to local recipients listed in=20
/users/nardella.com.au.cdb.

smtpgreeting: (Default.) SMTP greeting: 220 HYPERLINK =
"http://theguru.abcd.com.au"theguru.abcd.com.au.

smtproutes: (Default.) No artificial SMTP routes.

timeoutconnect: (Default.) SMTP client connection timeout is 60 seconds. =


timeoutremote: (Default.) SMTP client data timeout is 1200 seconds.

timeoutsmtpd: (Default.) SMTP server data timeout is 1200 seconds.

virtualdomains:
Virtual domain: nardella.com:nardella.com
Virtual domain: oepmg.org.au:oepmg
Virtual domain: nardella.com.au:nardella.com
Virtual domain: nardella.biz:nardella.com
Virtual domain: nard.com.au:nardella.com
Virtual domain: pro-motion.com:nardella.com

tarpitcount: Actual Tarpitcount: 5.

tarpitdelay: Actual Tarpitdelay: 10.

defaultdelivery: I have no idea what this file does.

badmailfrom.bak: I have no idea what this file does.

concurrencyincoming: I have no idea what this file does.=20

recipients.cdb: I have no idea what this file does.

validrcptto.cdb: I have no idea what this file does.

validrcptto: I have no idea what this file does.

- -=A0=A0-
Thanks

Michael




Any further information that would help with a solution?
=A0
Michael
=A0


In the absence of current assistance I have removed spamcontrol and gone =
back to a standard qmail (patched) setup.=20

As=A0I=A0was the subject of heavy dictionary attacks on the server it =
would be appreciated if=A0 some help on getting spamcontrol working was =
available or maybe a suggestion of some other solution.

=A0

Thank you=A0in anticipation.

=A0

Michael


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<DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2>-----Original =
Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> ..=20
[mailto:theguru1@gmail.com]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, 5 January 2006 =
10:20=20
PM<BR><B>To:</B> theguru1@optusnet.com.au<BR><B>Cc:</B> Erwin Hoffmann;=20
qmail@list.cr.yp.to<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: Spamcontrol rejecting all=20
mail<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr style=3D"MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
  <DIV><SPAN class=3Dgmail_quote>On 1/5/06, <B =
class=3Dgmail_sendername>Michael</B>=20
  &lt;<A =
href=3D"mailto:theguru1@optusnet.com.au">theguru1@optusnet.com.au</A>&gt;=
=20
  wrote:</SPAN>=20
  <BLOCKQUOTE class=3Dgmail_quote=20
  style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: =
#ccc 1px solid">At=20
    13:49 04.01.2006 +1100, .. wrote:<BR>&gt;Running Freebsd 6.0 with =
qmail 1.03=20
    under tcpserver. No problems in the <BR>past runinng several virtual =

    domains. Run spamcontrol install without issue<BR>except I &gt;now =
get all=20
    mail rejected (including virtuals) with message<BR>&gt;"Reject:=20
    RCPT::Failed_Recptto....<BR>&gt;Recipients files are in place. =
<BR>&gt;I've=20
    read everything and tried a number of possible fixes but simply =
can<BR>not=20
    get this to work properly.<BR><BR>The least you should do would is =
to post=20
    the output of "qmail-showctl".<BR><BR><BR>regards. =
<BR>--eh.<BR><BR><BR>I=20
    have changed over to Outlook as it appears Gmail &amp; the list are =
not=20
    very<BR>compatible. I hope the following is better than the garbled =
mess=20
    that comes<BR>back from the list with gmail.<BR><BR><BR>Thank you =
for your=20
    response and my apologies for leaving off some<BR>information to =
begin=20
    with.<BR><BR>qmail-showctl follows. I disabled the badmailfrom to =
limit the=20
    output.<BR><BR><BR><BR>qmail home directory: /var/qmail. =
<BR>user-ext=20
    delimiter: -.<BR>paternalism (in decimal): 2.<BR>silent concurrency =
limit:=20
    120.<BR>subdirectory split: 23.<BR>user ids: 81, 82, 83, 0, 84, 85, =
86,=20
    87.<BR>group ids: 81, 82.<BR><BR>authsenders: (Default.) No =
authenticated=20
    SMTP senders. <BR><BR>badhelo: (Default.) Any HELO/EHLO greeting is=20
    allowed.<BR><BR>badmailfrom: (Default.) Any MAIL FROM is=20
    allowed.<BR><BR>badloadertypes: (Default.) Any loader types are=20
    accepted.<BR><BR>badloadertypes.cdb: (Default.) No effect.=20
    <BR><BR>badmimetypes: (Default.) Any MIME types are=20
    accepted.<BR><BR>badmimetypes.cdb: (Default.) No =
effect.<BR><BR>badrcptto:=20
    (Default.) Any RCPT TO is allowed.<BR><BR>bouncefrom: (Default.) =
Bounce user=20
    name is MAILER-DAEMON. <BR><BR>bouncehost: (Default.) Bounce host =
name is <A=20
    =
href=3D"http://theguru.abcd.com.au">theguru.abcd.com.au</A>.<BR><BR>bounc=
emaxbytes:=20
    Bounce size limit is 2500 bytes.<BR><BR>concurrencylocal: (Default.) =
Local=20
    concurrency is 10. <BR><BR>concurrencyremote: (Default.) Remote =
concurrency=20
    is 20.<BR><BR>databytes: SMTP DATA limit is 2000000=20
    bytes.<BR><BR>defaultdomain: Default domain name is <A=20
    href=3D"http://abcd.com.au">abcd.com.au</A>.<BR><BR>defaulthost: =
(Default.)=20
    Default host name is <A=20
    =
href=3D"http://theguru.abcd.com.au">theguru.abcd.com.au</A>.<BR><BR>doubl=
ebouncehost:=20
    (Default.) 2B recipient host: <A=20
    =
href=3D"http://theguru.abcd.com.au">theguru.abcd.com.au</A>.<BR><BR>doubl=
ebounceto:=20
    (Default.) 2B recipient user: postmaster. <BR><BR>envnoathost: =
(Default.)=20
    Presumed domain name is <A=20
    =
href=3D"http://theguru.abcd.com.au">theguru.abcd.com.au</A>.<BR><BR>heloh=
ost:=20
    (Default.) SMTP client HELO host name is <A=20
    href=3D"http://theguru.abcd.com.au">theguru.abcd.com.au =
</A>.<BR><BR>idhost:=20
    (Default.) Message-ID host name is <A=20
    =
href=3D"http://theguru.abcd.com.au">theguru.abcd.com.au</A>.<BR><BR>local=
iphost:=20
    (Default.) Local IP address becomes <A=20
    href=3D"http://theguru.abcd.com.au">theguru.abcd.com.au=20
    </A>.<BR><BR>locals:<BR>Messages for localhost are delivered=20
    locally.<BR>Messages for <A=20
    href=3D"http://localhost.abcd.com.au">localhost.abcd.com.au</A> are =
delivered=20
    locally.<BR>Messages for <A=20
    =
href=3D"http://michae34.lnk.telstra.net">michae34.lnk.telstra.net</A> =
are=20
    delivered locally.<BR>Messages for <A=20
    href=3D"http://TheGuru.abcd.com.au">TheGuru.abcd.com.au</A> are =
delivered=20
    locally.<BR>Messages for <A=20
    href=3D"http://theguru.abcd.com.au">theguru.abcd.com.au </A>are =
delivered=20
    locally.<BR>Messages for <A =
href=3D"http://ns.abcd.com.au">ns.abcd.com.au</A>=20
    are delivered locally.<BR>Messages for <A=20
    href=3D"http://mail.abcd.com.au">mail.abcd.com.au</A> are delivered=20
    locally.<BR>Messages for michael are delivered locally. <BR><BR>me: =
My name=20
    is <A=20
    =
href=3D"http://theguru.abcd.com.au">theguru.abcd.com.au</A>.<BR><BR>morei=
pme:=20
    (Default.) No additional IP addresses are me.<BR><BR>notipme: =
(Default.) All=20
    of my IP addresses are me.<BR><BR>percenthack: (Default.) The =
percent hack=20
    is not allowed. <BR><BR>plusdomain: Plus domain name is <A=20
    href=3D"http://abcd.com.au">abcd.com.au</A>.<BR><BR>qmqpservers: =
(Default.) No=20
    QMQP servers.<BR><BR>queuelifetime: (Default.) Message lifetime in =
the queue=20
    is 604800 seconds.<BR><BR>rcpthosts:<BR>SMTP clients may send =
messages to=20
    recipients at localhost.<BR>SMTP clients may send messages to =
recipients at=20
    <A href=3D"http://abcd.com.au">abcd.com.au</A>.<BR>SMTP clients may =
send=20
    messages to recipients at <A=20
    =
href=3D"http://michae34.lnk.telstra.net">michae34.lnk.telstra.net</A>.<BR=
>SMTP=20
    clients may send messages to recipients at <A=20
    href=3D"http://TheGuru.abcd.com.au">TheGuru.abcd.com.au</A>.<BR>SMTP =
clients=20
    may send messages to recipients at <A=20
    href=3D"http://theguru.abcd.com.au">theguru.abcd.com.au</A>.<BR>SMTP =
clients=20
    may send messages to recipients at <A=20
    href=3D"http://ns.abcd.com.au">ns.abcd.com.au</A>.<BR>SMTP clients =
may send=20
    messages to recipients at <A=20
    href=3D"http://mail.abcd.com.au">mail.abcd.com.au</A>.<BR>SMTP =
clients may=20
    send messages to recipients at <A=20
    href=3D"http://nardella.com">nardella.com</A>.<BR>SMTP clients may =
send=20
    messages to recipients at <A=20
    href=3D"http://nardella.com.au">nardella.com.au</A> .<BR>SMTP =
clients may send=20
    messages to recipients at <A=20
    href=3D"http://nard.com.au">nard.com.au</A>.<BR>SMTP clients may =
send messages=20
    to recipients at <A =
href=3D"http://pro-motion.com">pro-motion.com</A>.<BR>SMTP=20
    clients may send messages to recipients at <A=20
    href=3D"http://oepmg.org.au">oepmg.org.au</A>.<BR>SMTP clients may =
send=20
    messages to recipients at <A=20
    href=3D"http://nardella.biz">nardella.biz</A>.<BR><BR>morercpthosts: =

    (Default.) No effect.<BR><BR>morercpthosts.cdb: (Default.) No =
effect.=20
    <BR><BR>recipients:<BR>SMTP clients may send messages to local =
recipients=20
    listed in<BR>/users/recipients.cdb.<BR>SMTP clients may send =
messages to=20
    local recipients listed in<BR>/users/nardella.com.cdb.<BR>SMTP =
clients may=20
    send messages to local recipients listed in=20
    <BR>/users/nardella.com.au.cdb.<BR><BR>smtpgreeting: (Default.) SMTP =

    greeting: 220 <A=20
    =
href=3D"http://theguru.abcd.com.au">theguru.abcd.com.au</A>.<BR><BR>smtpr=
outes:=20
    (Default.) No artificial SMTP routes.<BR><BR>timeoutconnect: =
(Default.) SMTP=20
    client connection timeout is 60 seconds. <BR><BR>timeoutremote: =
(Default.)=20
    SMTP client data timeout is 1200 seconds.<BR><BR>timeoutsmtpd: =
(Default.)=20
    SMTP server data timeout is 1200 =
seconds.<BR><BR>virtualdomains:<BR>Virtual=20
    domain: nardella.com:nardella.com<BR>Virtual domain:=20
    oepmg.org.au:oepmg<BR>Virtual domain:=20
    nardella.com.au:nardella.com<BR>Virtual domain:=20
    nardella.biz:nardella.com<BR>Virtual domain:=20
    nard.com.au:nardella.com<BR>Virtual domain:=20
    pro-motion.com:nardella.com<BR><BR>tarpitcount: Actual Tarpitcount:=20
    5.<BR><BR>tarpitdelay: Actual Tarpitdelay: =
10.<BR><BR>defaultdelivery: I=20
    have no idea what this file does.<BR><BR>badmailfrom.bak: I have no =
idea=20
    what this file does.<BR><BR>concurrencyincoming: I have no idea what =
this=20
    file does. <BR><BR>recipients.cdb: I have no idea what this file=20
    does.<BR><BR>validrcptto.cdb: I have no idea what this file=20
    does.<BR><BR>validrcptto: I have no idea what this file =
does.<BR><BR>-=20
    =
-&nbsp;&nbsp;-<BR>Thanks<BR><BR>Michael<BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR>
  <DIV>Any further information that would help with a solution?</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>Michael<BR>&nbsp;</DIV><BR>
  <P><SPAN class=3D645174321-05012006><FONT size=3D2>In the absence of =
current=20
  assistance I have removed spamcontrol and gone back to a standard =
qmail=20
  (patched) setup. </FONT></SPAN></P>
  <P><SPAN class=3D645174321-05012006><FONT size=3D2>As&nbsp;I&nbsp;was =
the subject=20
  of heavy dictionary attacks on the server it would be appreciated =
if&nbsp;=20
  some help on getting spamcontrol working was available or maybe a =
suggestion=20
  of some other solution.</FONT></SPAN></P>
  <P><SPAN class=3D645174321-05012006><FONT =
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</P>
  <P><SPAN class=3D645174321-05012006><FONT size=3D2>Thank you&nbsp;in=20
  anticipation.</FONT></SPAN></P>
  <P><SPAN class=3D645174321-05012006><FONT =
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</P>
  <P><SPAN class=3D645174321-05012006><FONT=20
size=3D2>Michael</FONT></SPAN></P></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
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From: Charles Cazabon <qmail@discworld.dyndns.org>
To: qmail@list.cr.yp.to
Subject: Re: Single instance storage (SIS) in qmail
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Glow Nair <zanchu_glow@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Has anyone implemented Single Instance Storage (SIS) in qmail ?  (For eg.
> attachments sent to multiple recipients saved once rather than multiple
> times)

Messages with attachments and more than one recipient will be stored as a
single "instance" for as long as the message is in the queue.

After delivery, it's no longer up to qmail how the messages are stored.  I'm
not sure how you propose to store a message such that two different local
users share an instance when they can each modify it.

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Thus said Charles Cazabon on Thu, 05 Jan 2006 15:47:37 CST:

> That's a different kettle of fish, and should be solved in a different
> manner.  If you  look  in the  qmail list  archives,  you'll see  many
> discusses  of  various  approaches  to distributing  a  domain  across
> various sites, each with its own  server. qmail-ldap is one way to go;
> using named sub-domains with vanilla qmail and some intelligent .qmail
> file  handling is  another,  more administration-intensive  way to  do
> this.

Another  approach  (also in  the  archives)  is  to use  fastfoward  and
simply  distribute  /etc/aliases.cdb to  each  server.  This seems  less
administration-intensive than at least one of these other methods.

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On Thu, 5 Jan 2006, Charles Cazabon wrote:

> Glow Nair <zanchu_glow@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Has anyone implemented Single Instance Storage (SIS) in qmail ?  (For eg.
>> attachments sent to multiple recipients saved once rather than multiple
>> times)
>
> Messages with attachments and more than one recipient will be stored as a
> single "instance" for as long as the message is in the queue.
>
> After delivery, it's no longer up to qmail how the messages are stored.  I'm
> not sure how you propose to store a message such that two different local
> users share an instance when they can each modify it.

this was some old thing from Exchange, there is no reason to support it.

>
> Charles
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Perhaps I should expand...

There's a international domain that goes to a central mailserv (let's 
say domain.com) and my server accepts site1-domain.com.  I have no 
control over any of the other sites.

Qmail is configured as site1-domain.com

Fetchmail does an aka for domain.com and site1-domain.com as they insist 
that both domains should be deliverable.

Problems arise when emails are sent to people in differrent sites 
domain.com site-domain.com, site2-domain.com etc....

So when one of these arrive at site1-domain.com, intended recipients are 
delivered successfully, but it also tries to deliver to the other 
recipients which don't exist.....


Andy Bradford wrote:

>Thus said Charles Cazabon on Thu, 05 Jan 2006 15:47:37 CST:
>
>  
>
>>That's a different kettle of fish, and should be solved in a different
>>manner.  If you  look  in the  qmail list  archives,  you'll see  many
>>discusses  of  various  approaches  to distributing  a  domain  across
>>various sites, each with its own  server. qmail-ldap is one way to go;
>>using named sub-domains with vanilla qmail and some intelligent .qmail
>>file  handling is  another,  more administration-intensive  way to  do
>>this.
>>    
>>
>
>Another  approach  (also in  the  archives)  is  to use  fastfoward  and
>simply  distribute  /etc/aliases.cdb to  each  server.  This seems  less
>administration-intensive than at least one of these other methods.
>
>Andy
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Alexander Meis wrote:

> Hi...
>
> i use qmail with qmailscanner,spamassassin und clamd for filtering the 
> mails. Is there a way to let qmailscanner filter out the Spams as it 
> does with the virus mails? I even want to filter Spam out of our 
> outgoing mail.


Having a bit more than little load (about 300 domains, 10 mails/minute 
average AFTER most of filtering, about 120 connection attempts per 
minute raw), I've ended up with self-made graylist patch, denial for 
hosts without reverse DNS, and amavis+spamassassin filtering after that. 
I am enjoying less than 10% rejects on SpamAssassin and about 1-2 spams 
per day on my account (before graylist+RBL+RDNS block, I've got 75% of 
mail rejected by SpamAssassin and 10+ spams per day on my account AFTER 
spamssassin reject).

Alex.



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Hi...

i use qmail with qmailscanner,spamassassin und clamd for filtering the 
mails. Is there a way to let qmailscanner filter out the Spams as it 
does with the virus mails? I even want to filter Spam out of our 
outgoing mail.

Thanks

Alex


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Hia.

I'm trying to install qmail on my redhat server (kernel 2.6.9-22.0.1, 64 
bits CPU)
However when i "make setup check" it returns with the following:
"./load auto-str substdio.a error.a str.a
substdio.a(substdo.o)(.text+0x69): In function `allwrite':
: undefined reference to `errno'
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
make: *** [auto-str] Error 1"

I understand that this error message might not give too much information 
and I will therefore provide you with any extra information that you 
require.

Thank you for any pointers or any help that you might give :)



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Webmaster <webmaster@nordhagen.no> wrote:
> 
> Thank you for any pointers or any help that you might give :)

Google for "qmail errno" will give you the right answer.

Charles
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On 1/6/2006 3:02 PM +0200, Webmaster wrote:
> Hia.
> 
> I'm trying to install qmail on my redhat server (kernel 2.6.9-22.0.1, 64 
> bits CPU)
> However when i "make setup check" it returns with the following:
> "./load auto-str substdio.a error.a str.a
> substdio.a(substdo.o)(.text+0x69): In function `allwrite':
> : undefined reference to `errno'
> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
> make: *** [auto-str] Error 1"
> 
> I understand that this error message might not give too much information 
> and I will therefore provide you with any extra information that you 
> require.
> 
> Thank you for any pointers or any help that you might give :)

http://www.google.com/search?q=qmail+errno
Also see the excellent guide http://lifewithqmail.org

Regards,

Niek Baakman

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Alexander Meis wrote:

> Hi...
>
> i use qmail with qmailscanner,spamassassin und clamd for filtering the 
> mails. Is there a way to let qmailscanner filter out the Spams as it 
> does with the virus mails? I even want to filter Spam out of our 
> outgoing mail.
>
> Thanks
>
> Alex
>
Here ya go:
http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/DeletingAllMailsMarkedSpam
(this is my first time helping someone and I'm actually nervous hitting 
the send button because I hope I replied correctly. haha I'm scared of 
Charles...)

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On Thursday, January  5 at 06:08 PM, quoth brian@highstream.kicks-ass.org:
>> Glow Nair <zanchu_glow@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> Has anyone implemented Single Instance Storage (SIS) in qmail ?  (For e=
g.
>>> attachments sent to multiple recipients saved once rather than multiple
>>> times)
>>
>> Messages with attachments and more than one recipient will be stored as a
>> single "instance" for as long as the message is in the queue.
>>
>> After delivery, it's no longer up to qmail how the messages are stored. =
=20
>> I'm
>> not sure how you propose to store a message such that two different local
>> users share an instance when they can each modify it.
>
> this was some old thing from Exchange, there is no reason to support it.

For what it's worth (and that's not much, if you ask me), MSFT developed=20
a single-instance-store filesystem based on file hashes. If you're=20
sufficiently concerned about all the extra space taken up by multiple=20
recipients of the same email (which is really silly, especially from a=20
quota perspective), you may want to look into that as a mailstore=20
backend.

Let's turn it around: what problem are you trying to solve?

~Kyle
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really make them think, they'll hate you.
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From: Blair Lowe <qmail@domainsunder.ca>
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Cool!

I tried it out and it seems OK on CentOS.

I also created three spec files: dietlibc.spec, libowfat.spec, and
qmail-sms.spec for us CentOS dudes (and possibly other Linux rpm OS's)
at the usual location:
http://www.computerengineering.ca/download/specs/

My question is: I use vmailmgr, and have virtual users. The .qmail
technique does not seem to work for an individual user eg. /home/<domain
name virtual user>/users/<username for sms forwarding>/.qmail

My .qmail file is as per your docs, and the forwarding works from the
command line but why not in the users' directory.

TTYL,
Blair.




On Tue, 2005-20-12 at 21:24 +0200, Nikola wrote:
> Hi People!
> 
> I wrote a simple client for qmail to forward email to SMS.
> My uses qmail-queue.  Simply add in dot-mail one line:
> 
>   |qmail-sms 160 5 user-smsblock@host.com 123456789@sms.host.net
> 
> The above arguments means:
> $ ./qmail-sms 
> usage: qmail-sms maxsize maxparts sender recipient [-n]
> 
> http://riemann.fmi.uni-sofia.bg/programs/qmail-sms-0.1.tar.gz
> 
> Enjoy, Nikola


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Thus spake Glow Nair (zanchu_glow@yahoo.com):
> Has anyone implemented Single Instance Storage
> (SIS) in qmail ?

I once implemented hard linked maildir storage for a customer.  This
only works for scenarios with virtual mailboxes, where all mailboxes
belong to the same uid and only known pop and imap servers access the
maildirs, not shell users with vi.

Disks are cheap, though.  And you lose the Delivered-To line stating the
local mailbox name.  The delivery program also includes LDAP code, so
it's not very useful on it's own.  The multi-link feature requires
postfix or a patched qmail, though, only has a whole-email granularity
(does not catch the case where some external guy sends you the same
email three times, unless the email comes in as one email with multiple
recipients over smtp).

It helps performance a lot if you have a lot if pressure due to internal
mass mailings with large Word attachments, because less data is actually
written to disk.

Felix

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Hi,
> Frank,
> 
> It is in French. Do you have an English page?

Sorry, no english webpage but the script (*.tar.gz) is in english

Franck

> Regards
> Wilfred
> 
> Franck wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> i've released a new version of my qmail installation script 1.3.17 :
>> http://www.linuxpourtous.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=29&Itemid=4
>>
>>
>> CHANGELOG
>>
>> * Versions of softwares sources updated
>> * Minor changes in supervise scripts for chkuser
>> * Minor changes in simscan installation
>> * Added values.suse10.0 file
>> * Minor debug in ezmlm installation
>> * Added values.sles9 for SUSE Linux Enterprise Server 9. Thanks to
>> Nikilauda
>> * Succesfully tested on SUSE Linux Enterprise Server 9. Thanks to
>> Nikilauda
>>
>> You could post feedbacks in forum.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Franck
>>
>>   


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Blair Lowe <qmail@domainsunder.ca> wrote:
> Cool!

Your message was top-posted.  Please configure your MUA to quote correctly
before sending messages to mailing lists.  If you don't know what this means,
read this: http://www.faqs.org/docs/jargon/T/top-post.html

To learn what "quote correctly" means, read this:
http://www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote2.html

If you are using an MS MUA, these free add-on packages can apparently fix
their quoting style for you: http://home.in.tum.de/~jain/software/oe-quotefix/
http://home.in.tum.de/~jain/software/outlook-quotefix/

> > I wrote a simple client for qmail to forward email to SMS.
> > My uses qmail-queue.  Simply add in dot-mail one line:
> >
> >   |qmail-sms 160 5 user-smsblock@host.com 123456789@sms.host.net
>
> I tried it out and it seems OK on CentOS.
[...]
> My question is: I use vmailmgr, and have virtual users. The .qmail
> technique does not seem to work for an individual user eg. /home/<domain
> name virtual user>/users/<username for sms forwarding>/.qmail

It does work.  You just put the .qmail file in the wrong place -- you appear
to have done it the way the vpopmail MDA expects things, whereas vmailmgr lets
you use the native qmail way of doing it.

Create the file <virtualdomainuser>/.qmail-<username> instead and it will work
fine.  If you have further questions about this, the vmailmgr list is probably
more appropriate.

Charles
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I have queues piling up.

messages in queue: 53279
messages in queue but not yet preprocessed: 0

Current smtpd sessions:                         241
Mail currently being delivered remotely:        1
Mail currently being delivered locally:         0
Current POP mail:                               1


This is on one server. smtpd sessions are set for 250. Clamd, qscanner,
rblsmtpd being used.

A lot is garbage, but there is much valid mail there too. Some that is
over 24 hrs old waiting to be delivered.

There are qmail-getpw processes hung it looks like too.

We inherited three qmail systems and we run postfix and sendmail
for so long now I really dont know squat about qmail.

What can be done to speed up queue processing?

Thanks,
Keith.

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On Saturday, January  7 at 12:36 PM, quoth Keith Woodworth:
>
>I have queues piling up.
>
>messages in queue: 53279
>messages in queue but not yet preprocessed: 0
>
>Current smtpd sessions:                         241
>Mail currently being delivered remotely:        1
>Mail currently being delivered locally:         0
>Current POP mail:                               1

Looks more or less "normal." It could be, with that many messages in=20
your queue, that you're being used by a spammer, and thus those messages=20
in the queue are the spams that couldn't get sent.

Check your logs to find out why they aren't being delivered.

>This is on one server. smtpd sessions are set for 250. Clamd, qscanner,
>rblsmtpd being used.
>
>A lot is garbage, but there is much valid mail there too. Some that is
>over 24 hrs old waiting to be delivered.

I'm pretty sure your valid mail got several delivery attempts in the=20
last 24 hours. Check your logs and find out why they didn't get=20
delivered.

>There are qmail-getpw processes hung it looks like too.

What are you using qmail-getpw for?

If those processes are hung, then getpwnam() isn't working properly, and=20
your OS is likely majorly hosed.

>We inherited three qmail systems and we run postfix and sendmail
>for so long now I really dont know squat about qmail.
>
>What can be done to speed up queue processing?

Lots of things. Step one is to find out whether there's a slowdown, and=20
what that slowdown might be. Specifically, look in your logs to see why=20
these messages are not being delivered.

~Kyle
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* Keith Woodworth <keith@citytel.net> [060108 09:31]:
> 
> I have queues piling up.
> 
> messages in queue: 53279
> messages in queue but not yet preprocessed: 0

Might be that most of the mails are to a specific server (might be they
are twarting a possible spam attack from your server). Seeing the queue
might help to find out the problem. Also, check if they are local mails
or remote mails. If they are local mails maybe there is a problem with
your .qmail file(s). And last but not least check the logs of
qmail-send. If you have good bandwidth then increase concurrency remote
and try to push them out by giving and ALRM signal to qmail.

Shantanu
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I am new to Linux, gcc, qmail, and everything in the Linux world. PLEASE have patience with me as I 
stumble along! Thank you.

I am using a CentOS 4.2 Linux system. I am trying to install qmail. It is my understanding that 
daemontools (I downloaded daemontools-0.76.tar.gz) and ucspi-tcp (I downloaded 
ucspi-tcp.0.88.tar.gz) are required. I downloaded the lasest version of gcc. I followed the 
directions on the download pages. When compiling I received errors but the errors flew by so fast I 
could not see them all. Most were undefined references.

1) Is there a "log" file that will tell me the errors so I can post them here and get help?

2) How can I resolve undefined references? Possibly others have been through this and know what it 
is about already.

This is an unchanged CentOS 4.2 setup with qmail, gnome, and the above items added. Perhaps a PATH 
entry is missing or something like that.

Thank you in advance for your patience and help.

Mike




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On Sun, 8 Jan 2006, MikeA wrote:

> I am new to Linux, gcc, qmail, and everything in the Linux world. PLEASE have patience with me as I
> stumble along! Thank you.
>
> I am using a CentOS 4.2 Linux system. I am trying to install qmail. It is my understanding that
> daemontools (I downloaded daemontools-0.76.tar.gz) and ucspi-tcp (I downloaded
> ucspi-tcp.0.88.tar.gz) are required. I downloaded the lasest version of gcc. I followed the
> directions on the download pages. When compiling I received errors but the errors flew by so fast I
> could not see them all. Most were undefined references.

without seeing them they are almost definitely the #1 most asked question
on this list ever. check www.qmail.org it contains much information on
qmail, as an install guide many of us use www.lifewithqmail.org .
don't be cute and try to set up a virtual user based system with smtp auth
before before you can set up a basic Unix account based install that
works. Walk before you can run.

Good luck, although luck has nothing to do with it.



>
> 1) Is there a "log" file that will tell me the errors so I can post them here and get help?
>
> 2) How can I resolve undefined references? Possibly others have been through this and know what it
> is about already.
>
> This is an unchanged CentOS 4.2 setup with qmail, gnome, and the above items added. Perhaps a PATH
> entry is missing or something like that.
>
> Thank you in advance for your patience and help.
>
> Mike
>
>
>
>

brian
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I have the lwq.pdf and am following it. There is nothing in on what to do with errors. As a matter 
of a fact, it has the same information as on the daemontools page.

And I am not being "cute" as you call it. I'm trying to learn to do things. You did not answer a 
single question that I asked. You just were arrogant.

If you cannot be helpful please do not respond. People like you twice before made me drop Linux and 
head back to Windows where my life is a lot easier. I would have had a mail server up by now.


<brian@highstream.kicks-ass.org> wrote in message 
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On Sun, 8 Jan 2006, MikeA wrote:

> I am new to Linux, gcc, qmail, and everything in the Linux world. PLEASE have patience with me as 
> I
> stumble along! Thank you.
>
> I am using a CentOS 4.2 Linux system. I am trying to install qmail. It is my understanding that
> daemontools (I downloaded daemontools-0.76.tar.gz) and ucspi-tcp (I downloaded
> ucspi-tcp.0.88.tar.gz) are required. I downloaded the lasest version of gcc. I followed the
> directions on the download pages. When compiling I received errors but the errors flew by so fast 
> I
> could not see them all. Most were undefined references.

without seeing them they are almost definitely the #1 most asked question
on this list ever. check www.qmail.org it contains much information on
qmail, as an install guide many of us use www.lifewithqmail.org .
don't be cute and try to set up a virtual user based system with smtp auth
before before you can set up a basic Unix account based install that
works. Walk before you can run.

Good luck, although luck has nothing to do with it.



>
> 1) Is there a "log" file that will tell me the errors so I can post them here and get help?
>
> 2) How can I resolve undefined references? Possibly others have been through this and know what it
> is about already.
>
> This is an unchanged CentOS 4.2 setup with qmail, gnome, and the above items added. Perhaps a PATH
> entry is missing or something like that.
>
> Thank you in advance for your patience and help.
>
> Mike
>
>
>
>

brian
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On Sun, 2006-01-08 at 18:27 -0500, MikeA wrote:
> I have the lwq.pdf and am following it. There is nothing in on what to do with errors. As a matter 
> of a fact, it has the same information as on the daemontools page.

$ make 2>err

The "2>err" will save the error messages in the file "err".

> And I am not being "cute" as you call it. I'm trying to learn to do things. You did not answer a 
> single question that I asked. You just were arrogant.
> 
> If you cannot be helpful please do not respond. People like you twice before made me drop Linux and 
> head back to Windows where my life is a lot easier. I would have had a mail server up by now.

Not trying to be arrogant, but if you want to continue down
the non-MS road you'd best thicken up your skin.  The sort
of folk who hang out in this neck of the woods require those
that request help have some idea of how to drive a *nix system.
This means understanding basic concepts like shell redirection.

Brian was just suggesting that you get a basic install operating
correctly before trying to tackle more advanced features, as this
can mean patching and recompiling, and is probably out of your
reach at your current level of understanding.  If you think Brian
is on your case, you are not equipped to handle the more acerbic
list members.

Rick.


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Perhaps. But he could have answered the questions like you did. You answered the question, helped me 
help myself, and then advised me what to learn. And you did it without snide remarks. That sure 
makes wanting to learn Linux more desirable. If that is how people are treated it is no wonder Linux 
is not quickly heading to be the standard desktop. Like you did, help people to understand and Linux 
will win more and more converts quicker. We all have to learn somewhere and we all learn 
differently. And sometimes we have to learn the hard way due to a deadline.

In any case, I do know redirection but did not think of that. I can get the file and then post it 
here to see what is missing if I cannot figure it out myself.. The Linux system itself is up and 
running but there is not much else that I can do. I am working on getting Gnome installed. I am 
trying to get qmail installed as this will be a mail server and nothing else. I have Apache 
installed under Windows for now but might switch that to Linux or Solaris later. I use ssh to get 
back and forth on both systems.

Thank you for taking the time to help me and for your patience with a newbie!

Mike


"Richard Lyons" <frob-qmail@webcentral.com.au> wrote in message 
news:1136769044.31381.16.camel@localhost...
On Sun, 2006-01-08 at 18:27 -0500, MikeA wrote:
> I have the lwq.pdf and am following it. There is nothing in on what to do with errors. As a matter
> of a fact, it has the same information as on the daemontools page.

$ make 2>err

The "2>err" will save the error messages in the file "err".

> And I am not being "cute" as you call it. I'm trying to learn to do things. You did not answer a
> single question that I asked. You just were arrogant.
>
> If you cannot be helpful please do not respond. People like you twice before made me drop Linux 
> and
> head back to Windows where my life is a lot easier. I would have had a mail server up by now.

Not trying to be arrogant, but if you want to continue down
the non-MS road you'd best thicken up your skin.  The sort
of folk who hang out in this neck of the woods require those
that request help have some idea of how to drive a *nix system.
This means understanding basic concepts like shell redirection.

Brian was just suggesting that you get a basic install operating
correctly before trying to tackle more advanced features, as this
can mean patching and recompiling, and is probably out of your
reach at your current level of understanding.  If you think Brian
is on your case, you are not equipped to handle the more acerbic
list members.

Rick.





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I have sent a removal notice to the email address but it didn't remove me.

Does anyone watch this list who can do it manually?

I need bmagic@cccwireless.net removed from the list.

Thanks
-Blake-

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On Sun, 2006-01-08 at 19:35 -0600, Blake wrote:
> I have sent a removal notice to the email address but it didn't remove me.

The list management software should have sent back a confirmation;
you need to reply to the confirmation request to finalize the removal.
If you didn't receive the confirmation, try looking in your spam
folder or check your logs.

> Does anyone watch this list who can do it manually?

Try qmail-owner@list.cr.yp.to.

Rick.


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MikeA wrote:
> Perhaps. But he could have answered the questions like you did. You answered the question, helped me 
> help myself, and then advised me what to learn. And you did it without snide remarks. That sure 
> makes wanting to learn Linux more desirable. If that is how people are treated it is no wonder Linux 
> 
> Not trying to be arrogant, but if you want to continue down
> the non-MS road you'd best thicken up your skin.  The sort

Please do not top post.
Please do read the 12-steps linked below.
They will help smooth your path to enlightenment.

http://pyropus.ca/personal/writings/12-steps-to-qmail-list-bliss.html

And sorry if this seems arrogant, but this specialized qmail list is not 
the list to expect learning Linux to be made more desireable.
That just won't be found here.
Looking for archives of this list?
http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/qmail/users/
or
http://www-archive.ornl.gov:8000/


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Hello Keith,

I have lot of <> in queue. Im using script from this link:
 http://qmail.jms1.net/scripts/

----------
#!/bin/sh
for n in `find /var/qmail/queue/info -size 2c | sed 's/.*\///'`
do
        echo Bonking message $n
        touch -t 199801010000 /var/qmail/queue/*/*/$n
done

echo Kicking the queue

#qmail-tcpok 
#killall -ALRM qmail-send 
qmailctl doqueue
----------------------------------------

this script will change timestamp of bounced <> messages, and after
that in next run, qmail will try deliver it once more, if not
sucesfull, it will delete them.

hope it help

Miki


Tuesday, January 3, 2006, 7:46:14 PM, you wrote:

KW> We have recently taken over an ISP that uses Qmail. My experience has only
KW> been with Postfix and Sendmail and am trying to put together how Qmail
KW> works.

KW> In the last week there have been some issues regarding mail delivery, both
KW> locally and remotely.

KW> There are three servers, all of the handling incoming and outbound mail.

KW> One server mailq:

KW> messages in queue: 2700
KW> messages in queue but not yet preprocessed: 7

KW> Current smtpd sessions:                         54
KW> Mail currently being delivered remotely:        23
KW> Mail currently being delivered locally:         0
KW> Current POP mail:                               0

KW> Server #2:

KW> messages in queue: 1404
KW> messages in queue but not yet preprocessed: 6

KW> Current smtpd sessions:                         47
KW> Mail currently being delivered remotely:        18
KW> Mail currently being delivered locally:         0
KW> Current POP mail:                               1

KW> Server #3:

KW> messages in queue: 1516
KW> messages in queue but not yet preprocessed: 0

KW> Current smtpd sessions:                         57
KW> Mail currently being delivered remotely:        10
KW> Mail currently being delivered locally:         0
KW> Current POP mail:                               2

KW> Last week the queues on two of the machines were sitting at over 100k
KW> mails in both the preprocessed queue and the queue. Stopping and starting
KW> qmail on each of the servers has cleaned them out to a degree but mail
KW> delivery locally and remotely is still and issue.

KW> Most, if not all of the mails were <> null senders.

KW> I need to clean out the queue's. With postfix I built some scripts to
KW> clean out the queues, but with Qmail Ive read that its bad to delete mail
KW> from the queue and it should be expired out instead. There is valid mail
KW> in the queues but it takes forever to deliver.

KW> SA and Clam are being used on these machines as well rblsmtpd is used too.
KW> Where can I start looking at this to figure out why Qmail is so slow at
KW> processing mail?

KW> The log file sucks as *everything* is logged to one big file by something
KW> called Overlord. Syslog is one line:

KW> *.* /usr/sbin/overlord

KW> Makes it hard to figure what program is doing what.

KW> Anyone have some clue to share on where to start?

KW> Thanks,
KW> Keith




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On Sunday 08 January 2006 22:21, brian@highstream.kicks-ass.org wrote:
> On Sun, 8 Jan 2006, MikeA wrote:
> > I am new to Linux, gcc, qmail, and everything in the Linux world.
> > PLEASE have patience with me as I stumble along! Thank you.
> >
> > I am using a CentOS 4.2 Linux system. I am trying to install
> > qmail. It is my understanding that daemontools (I downloaded
> > daemontools-0.76.tar.gz) and ucspi-tcp (I downloaded
> > ucspi-tcp.0.88.tar.gz) are required. I downloaded the lasest
> > version of gcc. I followed the directions on the download pages.
> > When compiling I received errors but the errors flew by so fast I
> > could not see them all. Most were undefined references.
>
> without seeing them they are almost definitely the #1 most asked
> question on this list ever.
>...<snip>

Just search for "errno" on the qmail home page, www.qmail.org. That'll 
probably get you sorted. If not, send the list the errors you're 
seeing.

cheers,

Andrew.

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hi
what will qmail do if i try to send mails from different locations using 
same email address at same time.

thank you

-- 
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On Mon, 2006-01-09 at 19:01 +0530, anu bhaskar wrote:
> hi
> what will qmail do if i try to send mails from different locations using 
> same email address at same time.
> 
It will deliver them i guess??


> thank you
> 


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* anu bhaskar <anu.bhaskar@spectrum.net.in> [060109 21:00]:
> hi
> what will qmail do if i try to send mails from different locations using 
> same email address at same time.

huh!!! is this a trick question?

> anu bhaskar
> linux administrator

I guess it is. I give up.

Shantanu
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Ive been watching the qmail log on these servers and I began to see a bit
of a pattern after a while.

These are not piped through tai64nlocal but it seems a process of qmail
delivery stops.

When local (or rather all delivery to local and remote stops) this is what
I see in the log:

@4000000043c2a7eb34f0b624 info msg 1500681: bytes 2494 from
<Decatur@aa.every1.net> qp 62294 uid 0
@4000000043c2a7ec0f2478f4 new msg 1500685
@4000000043c2a7ec0fd2f104 info msg 1500685: bytes 8456 from <> qp 62305
uid 0
@4000000043c2a7ec1f9e5664 new msg 1500689
@4000000043c2a7ec2018b684 info msg 1500689: bytes 9725 from
<s_grace_ha@moebel-express.de> qp 62322 uid 0
@4000000043c2a7ec38a1277c new msg 1500688
@4000000043c2a7ec38a35de4 info msg 1500688: bytes 18811 from
<Richard.Kean@gov.bc.ca> qp 62311 uid 0
@4000000043c2a7ed0915300c new msg 1500692
@4000000043c2a7ed0943c5d4 info msg 1500692: bytes 14942 from
<QAPetersenoo@allthepower.net> qp 62347 uid 0
@4000000043c2a7ed1bc6409c new msg 1500683
@4000000043c2a7ed1bd7a1d4 info msg 1500683: bytes 4066 from
<fibrin@firstworld.net> qp 62340 uid 0
@4000000043c2a7ed2c9ae06c new msg 1500686
@4000000043c2a7ed2c9e66c4 info msg 1500686: bytes 4041 from <> qp 62342
uid 0
@4000000043c2a7ee01bee44c new msg 1500682
@4000000043c2a7ee01c17c5c info msg 1500682: bytes 9720 from
<p.hagendn@007.hu> qp 62356 uid 0
@4000000043c2a7ee18f86ee4 new msg 1500687
@4000000043c2a7ee191d0de4 info msg 1500687: bytes 7759 from
<WellhungHotties@omysister.com> qp 62364 uid 0
@4000000043c2a7ee2f75b244 new msg 1500691
@4000000043c2a7ee2f78e694 info msg 1500691: bytes 4418 from
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@4000000043c2a7ef01027dd4 new msg 1500690
@4000000043c2a7ef01144c6c info msg 1500690: bytes 4422 from
<iizdjqtl@cats-inverurie.co.uk> qp 62382 uid 0
@4000000043c2a7ef0ee15574 new msg 1500695
@4000000043c2a7ef0ee3d614 info msg 1500695: bytes 4278 from <> qp 62389
uid 0

New msg, info, new, info etc...no delivery messages at all. No errors,
nothing. Delivery just stops. But Qmail keeps happily accepting new mail
into the queue. I watched this particular log for 15 mins and I did not
see one attempt at delivery.

After stopping qmail and restarting qmail mail begins to be delivered
again.

2006-01-09 13:28:45.700034500 delivery 241: failure:
Sorry,_no_mailbox_here_by_that_name._(#5.1.1)/
2006-01-09 13:28:45.775256500 status: local 2/10 remote 8/120
2006-01-09 13:28:45.811639500 starting delivery 243: msg 1489126 to local
haplite@monarch.net
2006-01-09 13:28:45.811917500 status: local 3/10 remote 8/120
2006-01-09 13:28:45.816029500 starting delivery 244: msg 1489102 to remote
rentit2@mts.net
2006-01-09 13:28:45.820763500 status: local 3/10 remote 9/120
2006-01-09 13:28:45.835031500 end msg 1488920
2006-01-09 13:28:46.420531500 bounce msg 1489125 qp 53473
2006-01-09 13:28:46.463107500 end msg 1489125
2006-01-09 13:28:46.566438500 delivery 243: failure:
Sorry,_no_mailbox_here_by_that_name._(#5.1.1)/
2006-01-09 13:28:46.627668500 status: local 2/10 remote 9/120
2006-01-09 13:28:46.629587500 delivery 233: failure:
Sorry,_no_mailbox_here_by_that_name._(#5.1.1)/
2006-01-09 13:28:46.716805500 status: local 1/10 remote 9/120
2006-01-09 13:28:46.717571500 delivery 237: failure:
Sorry,_no_mailbox_here_by_that_name._(#5.1.1)/
2006-01-09 13:28:46.839307500 status: local 0/10 remote 9/120
2006-01-09 13:28:46.860594500 new msg 1488421
2006-01-09 13:28:46.861975500 info msg 1488421: bytes 15457 from <> qp
53315 uid 1007
2006-01-09 13:28:47.050154500 starting delivery 245: msg 1489127 to local
gagarin@monarch.net


which tells me something with qmail suddenly just stop delivering mail.

Deliveries for some reason just stop but qmail keeps right on accepting
the mail.

This happens on all 3 servers, more frequently on two of them.

I wondering if qmail-scanner is having some problems here. From what I
understand qmail-scanner takes mail from the queue and puts a mail through
whatever its been setup to do then if it passes gets delivered.

Anyone lend a clue here?

Thanks,
Keith

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> I wondering if qmail-scanner is having some problems here. From what I
> understand qmail-scanner takes mail from the queue and puts a mail  
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> whatever its been setup to do then if it passes gets delivered.

actually, qmail-scanner sits between qmail-smtpd and qmail-queue.  
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K. Shantanu wrote:
> * anu bhaskar <anu.bhaskar@spectrum.net.in> [060109 21:00]:
>   
>> hi
>> what will qmail do if i try to send mails from different locations using 
>> same email address at same time.
>>     
>
> huh!!! is this a trick question?
>   
this is not a trick. i have a client who tries to use same address in 
two different branches. but randomly these two branches where not able 
to send mails. they get connection timed out. i checked all the firewall 
rules and mail client settings. no problems in them.

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<blockquote cite="mid20060109153301.GA3694@localhost.localhost"
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  <pre wrap="">* anu bhaskar <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:anu.bhaskar@spectrum.net.in">&lt;anu.bhaskar@spectrum.net.in&gt;</a> [060109 21:00]:
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    <pre wrap="">hi
what will qmail do if i try to send mails from different locations using 
same email address at same time.
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huh!!! is this a trick question?
  </pre>
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this is not a trick. i have a client who tries to use same address in
two different branches. but randomly these two branches where not able
to send mails. they get connection timed out. i checked all the
firewall rules and mail client settings. no problems in them.<br>
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On Monday 09 January 2006 12:59, you wrote:
> Ive been watching the qmail log on these servers and I began to see a bit
> of a pattern after a while.
>
> These are not piped through tai64nlocal but it seems a process of qmail
> delivery stops.
>
> When local (or rather all delivery to local and remote stops) this is what
> I see in the log:
>
> @4000000043c2a7eb34f0b624 info msg 1500681: bytes 2494 from
> <Decatur@aa.every1.net> qp 62294 uid 0
> @4000000043c2a7ec0f2478f4 new msg 1500685
> @4000000043c2a7ec0fd2f104 info msg 1500685: bytes 8456 from <> qp 62305
> uid 0
> @4000000043c2a7ec1f9e5664 new msg 1500689
> @4000000043c2a7ec2018b684 info msg 1500689: bytes 9725 from
> <s_grace_ha@moebel-express.de> qp 62322 uid 0
> @4000000043c2a7ec38a1277c new msg 1500688
> @4000000043c2a7ec38a35de4 info msg 1500688: bytes 18811 from
> <Richard.Kean@gov.bc.ca> qp 62311 uid 0
> @4000000043c2a7ed0915300c new msg 1500692
> @4000000043c2a7ed0943c5d4 info msg 1500692: bytes 14942 from
> <QAPetersenoo@allthepower.net> qp 62347 uid 0
> @4000000043c2a7ed1bc6409c new msg 1500683
> @4000000043c2a7ed1bd7a1d4 info msg 1500683: bytes 4066 from
> <fibrin@firstworld.net> qp 62340 uid 0
> @4000000043c2a7ed2c9ae06c new msg 1500686
> @4000000043c2a7ed2c9e66c4 info msg 1500686: bytes 4041 from <> qp 62342
> uid 0
> @4000000043c2a7ee01bee44c new msg 1500682
> @4000000043c2a7ee01c17c5c info msg 1500682: bytes 9720 from
> <p.hagendn@007.hu> qp 62356 uid 0
> @4000000043c2a7ee18f86ee4 new msg 1500687
> @4000000043c2a7ee191d0de4 info msg 1500687: bytes 7759 from
> <WellhungHotties@omysister.com> qp 62364 uid 0
> @4000000043c2a7ee2f75b244 new msg 1500691
> @4000000043c2a7ee2f78e694 info msg 1500691: bytes 4418 from
> <uujqwifq@formula1domain.co.uk> qp 62385 uid 0
> @4000000043c2a7ef01027dd4 new msg 1500690
> @4000000043c2a7ef01144c6c info msg 1500690: bytes 4422 from
> <iizdjqtl@cats-inverurie.co.uk> qp 62382 uid 0
> @4000000043c2a7ef0ee15574 new msg 1500695
> @4000000043c2a7ef0ee3d614 info msg 1500695: bytes 4278 from <> qp 62389
> uid 0
>
> New msg, info, new, info etc...no delivery messages at all. No errors,
> nothing. Delivery just stops. But Qmail keeps happily accepting new mail
> into the queue. I watched this particular log for 15 mins and I did not
> see one attempt at delivery.

look upwards in that file and find a 'status' line and look.  Are the=20
concurrencies maxed?  if so, figure out why.

You said in another (related) thread of yours that you were seeing lots of=
=20
hung qmail-getpw processes... that's probably what's stopping local=20
deliveries.

regardless, we need more information from you.

how is your qmail set up?
what's the full, unedited output of qmail-showctl
what OS are you running?

=2DJeremy

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On Monday 09 January 2006 18:01, anu bhaskar wrote:
> K. Shantanu wrote:
> > * anu bhaskar <anu.bhaskar@spectrum.net.in> [060109 21:00]:
> >> hi
> >> what will qmail do if i try to send mails from different locations usi=
ng
> >> same email address at same time.
> >
> > huh!!! is this a trick question?
>
> this is not a trick. i have a client who tries to use same address in
> two different branches. but randomly these two branches where not able
> to send mails. they get connection timed out. i checked all the firewall
> rules and mail client settings. no problems in them.

qmail has no way of tracking who's sending what from where, when.  Therefor=
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so now that we know what your problem is..

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=20
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maxed out.  If it is, you'll need to increase the concurrency.

=2DJeremy
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On Monday 09 January 2006 05:52, Rick van Vliet wrote:
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> Please do not top post.
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Hi,
  I'm trying to develop a local intranet with a mail server as qmail. The local users use this system to send mails to each other (same mail server for incoming and outgoing mails). I have the following requirements.
   
  1. When a mail is read by the addressed person (for the first time), an acknowledgement mail should go to the sender of the mail automatically (without asking the addressed person). 
   
  2. When a new mail with priority 'high' comes for a user, it should get printed in a network printer which is set in a database table (or flat file).
   
  3. All the new mails should be allotted a unique-id such that users can refer those numbers while talking about it later. (the unique message id which is allotted by Qmail is pretty long and not easy to quote). Is there any method to add this as a seperate header, such that a mail could be searched with this particular number ? 
   
  4. Is there a commented version of qmail source code available ?
   
  Please help. I know I'm asking some basic questions. 
It would be great if you can give some directions atleast. 
   
  Best Regards,
 Jacob

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* Jacob <jacob.kurian@yahoo.com> [060110 19:13]:
>   1. When a mail is read by the addressed person (for the first time), an acknowledgement mail should go to the sender of the mail automatically (without asking the addressed person). 

How can someone control what is done at the email client end? Mail is
read usually at email client end, it can be clients like mutt,
thunderbird, OE or a webmail client. In that case you have to patch the
client.

>   2. When a new mail with priority 'high' comes for a user, it should get printed in a network printer which is set in a database table (or flat file).

Priority is again a feature of email clients. Not all clients honour it.
You can (in theory) write a filter which takes mail at SMTP level (see
below) checks the priority bit and sends it to the printer. There are ofcourse
a few more hacks that I can think of.

>   3. All the new mails should be allotted a unique-id such that users can refer those numbers while talking about it later. (the unique message id which is allotted by Qmail is pretty long and not easy to quote). Is there any method to add this as a seperate header, such that a mail could be searched with this particular number ? 

Yes, again you might have to use patch qmail with QMAILQUEUE patch and
maybe use qmail-qfilter to write a perl/python/shell/sed/awk plugin to add a
X-Header. I have a feeling I have seen this before. Anyway
qmail-scanner's source code can help for this addition of header thing.

>   4. Is there a commented version of qmail source code available ?

Not that I know of. But it is easy to pay someone to get it down. Even
on this list there might be some people willing to do it for a price.

>   Please help. I know I'm asking some basic questions. 
> It would be great if you can give some directions atleast. 

Do you "really" need these features? Many a times they are simply not
worth it.

Shantanu
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On Tue, Jan 10, 2006 at 04:01:20AM -0800, Jacob wrote:
>   1. When a mail is read by the addressed person (for the first time), an acknowledgement mail should go to the sender of the mail automatically (without asking the addressed person). 

dot-qmail, plus a filter to keep track of unique addresses and
send the acknowledgment. A combination of mailfilter or procmail
and a short Perl script can do this.

>   2. When a new mail with priority 'high' comes for a user, it should get printed in a network printer which is set in a database table (or flat file).

Also dot-qmail, with a filter to check for this priority header
and then send it off to the appropriate printer.

>   3. All the new mails should be allotted a unique-id such that users can refer those numbers while talking about it later. (the unique message id which is allotted by Qmail is pretty long and not easy to quote). Is there any method to add this as a seperate header, such that a mail could be searched with this particular number ? 

You'll need to handle this with an input-side filter. Perhaps
one of the virus-scanner systems can easily be modified to
insert this header for you.

Note that, since these things work in parallel, you either need
to generate something like a Usenet-style Message-ID, complete
with a timestamp down to a hundredth of a second plus a process-ID
(hostname.2006091245.23012), or you need a single source of incrementing
numbers which will serialize your system, and potentially slow it down.

>   4. Is there a commented version of qmail source code available ?

Not that I know of, but it's reasonably clearly written.

-dsr-

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* dsr@tao.merseine.nu <dsr@tao.merseine.nu> [060110 19:54]:
> dot-qmail, plus a filter to keep track of unique addresses and
> send the acknowledgment. A combination of mailfilter or procmail
> and a short Perl script can do this.

S**t I knew I would forget something.

> 
> >   2. When a new mail with priority 'high' comes for a user, it should get printed in a network printer which is set in a database table (or flat file).
> 
> Also dot-qmail, with a filter to check for this priority header
> and then send it off to the appropriate printer.

Same as above.

Shantanu
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* Jacob <jacob.kurian@yahoo.com> [060110 20:10]:
> Hi, 
>   Thanks for your fast reply. Please see my queries (for the first 2 ) below. 
(...)

Check dsr's reply. It is better.

Shantanu
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Dear all

I am quite new to qmail related implementations and I am trying to =
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processed to generate bounce backs statistics and for personel to look =
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Many thanks in advance

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Many thanks in advance</FONT></DIV>
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On Tue, Jan 10, 2006 at 02:39:44PM -0000, Otto Villarin wrote:
> Dear all
> 
> I am quite new to qmail related implementations and I am trying to implement
> a mailing software solution that returns undeliverable emails to an specific
> address, bounces@bla.com. Returned messages are later processed to generate
> bounce backs statistics and for personel to look at them when neccesary.
> Unfortunately I cannot set the sender-header to bounces@bla.com because some

What do you mean by sender-header?
Envelope sender (which is not header) or From: header field?

> email clients display the from address in the following format:
> "bounces@bla.com on behalf of the_client_email_address". This is an
> undesirable behaviour to our clients so the only way I have found to avoid

Is the client software coded by Microsoft?

> this is setting the return-path header in the messages and then using
> qmail-inject direcly to inject the messages in the queue.
> So I would really appreciate if anyone could give some ligths on this issues
> by answering the following questions:
> 
> 1. Is there any way to specify the return-path when using the qmail-smtpd and
> avoid it will be rewritten before it injects it in the queue?

What? You want to modify envelope sender for emails received by qmail-smtpd?

> 2. Alternatively is there any way to process undeliverable messages with a
> custom header so these specific messsages are forwarded to an especific email
> address.

Well, I just use feature called ABBS.
http://msgs.securepoint.com/cgi-bin/get/qmail0403/161.html

Or, to make it simpler, you can use qmail-1.03's feature in qmail-inject:
set env var QMAILINJECT to contain 'r' and QMAILSUSER to contain
'luser-b', QMAILSHOST to contain the domain used in envelope sender
(for example 'bounce.example.com') and then do:
maildirmake ~luser/Maildir/bounce
echo ./Maildir/bounce/ > ~luser/.qmail-b-default
(and fix the perms...  or pipe mail to a program which updates
 statistics and/or writes bounce to somewhere,...)

now, mails to luser-b-department=fbi.gov@bounce.example.com go to luser's
maildir at ~luser/Maildir/bounce .
(with this simple method spammers can send emails to
luser-b-anything=goes.com@bounce.example.com , with ABBS not.)
 
> Many thanks in advance
> 
> Otto

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At 7:56 PM +0530 1/10/06, K. Shantanu wrote:
>S**t I knew I would forget something.

No, you were right the first time.   Dot-qmail files can only cause 
an acknowledgement to be sent when qmail places the mail in the 
recipient's mailbox, not when the message is actually read by the 
user.  He might read it days or weeks later, or might not read it at 
all.  Sending an acknowledgement when the user actually becomes aware 
of the email message's existence (even if he still chooses not to 
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* Keith Woodworth <keith@citytel.net> [2006-01-07 12:36:04 -0800]:
> I have queues piling up.
> 
> messages in queue: 53279
> messages in queue but not yet preprocessed: 0
>
> [...]
>
> We inherited three qmail systems and we run postfix and sendmail for
> so long now I really dont know squat about qmail.

We had the same exact problem. Someone was using us to spoof Sober
virus-spam. After cleaning up the queue, we implemented a filtering
solution which mostly fixed the problem.

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On Tuesday 10 January 2006 04:01, you wrote:
> Hi,
>   I'm trying to develop a local intranet with a mail server as qmail. The
> local users use this system to send mails to each other (same mail server
> for incoming and outgoing mails). I have the following requirements.
>
>   1. When a mail is read by the addressed person (for the first time), an
> acknowledgement mail should go to the sender of the mail automatically
> (without asking the addressed person).

look in your MUA for read receipts.  This is not a qmail function.

>   2. When a new mail with priority 'high' comes for a user, it should get
> printed in a network printer which is set in a database table (or flat
> file).

why?  so you can waste paper?  You can't grep a dead tree.  My guess is tha=
t=20
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hy=20
would you get up and walk to the printer to check for urgent email?

>   3. All the new mails should be allotted a unique-id such that users can
> refer those numbers while talking about it later. (the unique message id
> which is allotted by Qmail is pretty long and not easy to quote). Is there
> any method to add this as a seperate header, such that a mail could be
> searched with this particular number ?

in order for the ID to be guaranteed 'unique' it has to be the way it is. =
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Otherwise it's too easy to have collisions.

>   4. Is there a commented version of qmail source code available ?

qmail-1.03.tar.gz from djb is the only 'official' qmail distribution.

>   Please help. I know I'm asking some basic questions.
> It would be great if you can give some directions atleast.

If you're doing an intra-office communication system, you might be better o=
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On Wed, 11 Jan 2006, Mun Fai Lee wrote:

> @4000000043c1fa880d72f094 delivery 40074: deferral: TLS_connect_failed:_error:1408F10B:SSL_routines:SSL3_GET_RECORD:wrong_version_number;_connected_to_193.69.20.20./

Could be a cipher list mismatch.  193.69.20.20 only supports DES-CBC3-SHA,
RC4-MD5 and RC4-SHA, if your cipher list doesn't have them it will be
difficult to establish an encrypted session.

See also http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=qmail&m=107867276026743&w=2,
although since you're the client I'm not sure it it's relevant.

Rick.


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On Sat, 2006-07-01 at 10:01 -0600, Charles Cazabon wrote:
> Blair Lowe <qmail@domainsunder.ca> wrote:
> > Cool!
> 
> Your message was top-posted.  Please configure your MUA to quote correctly
> before sending messages to mailing lists.  If you don't know what this means,
> read this: http://www.faqs.org/docs/jargon/T/top-post.html
> 
> To learn what "quote correctly" means, read this:
> http://www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote2.html
> 
> If you are using an MS MUA, these free add-on packages can apparently fix
> their quoting style for you: http://home.in.tum.de/~jain/software/oe-quotefix/
> http://home.in.tum.de/~jain/software/outlook-quotefix/
> 
> > > I wrote a simple client for qmail to forward email to SMS.
> > > My uses qmail-queue.  Simply add in dot-mail one line:
> > >
> > >   |qmail-sms 160 5 user-smsblock@host.com 123456789@sms.host.net
> >
> > I tried it out and it seems OK on CentOS.
> [...]
> > My question is: I use vmailmgr, and have virtual users. The .qmail
> > technique does not seem to work for an individual user eg. /home/<domain
> > name virtual user>/users/<username for sms forwarding>/.qmail
> 
> It does work.  You just put the .qmail file in the wrong place -- you appear
> to have done it the way the vpopmail MDA expects things, whereas vmailmgr lets
> you use the native qmail way of doing it.
> 
> Create the file <virtualdomainuser>/.qmail-<username> instead and it will work
> fine.  If you have further questions about this, the vmailmgr list is probably
> more appropriate.
> 
> Charles

Thanks Charles, that worked great. I do appreciate that, so don't please
don't perceive the rest of this email as a flame as I could not email
you directly due to your mailing list prefs.

Not sure if I am a "garden variety idiot" or not, and according to your
link it is great that people who use windoze mua are never that ;)

My wastefull but possibly important rebuttal is that "Cool" is not a
question or an answer, but rather an interjection, so it could be on any
line top or bottom, and still not confuse the email.

TTYL,
Blair.


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Blair Lowe wrote:
> On Sat, 2006-07-01 at 10:01 -0600, Charles Cazabon wrote:

> My wastefull but possibly important rebuttal is that "Cool" is not a
> question or an answer, but rather an interjection, so it could be on any
> line top or bottom, and still not confuse the email.

Blair,

Did you honestly think you could upset the order of the universe and not 
pay the price? ;)

Jon

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On Tuesday 10 January 2006 12:51, you wrote:
> On Sat, 2006-07-01 at 10:01 -0600, Charles Cazabon wrote:
> > Blair Lowe <qmail@domainsunder.ca> wrote:
> > > Cool!
> >
> > Your message was top-posted.  Please configure your MUA to quote
> > correctly before sending messages to mailing lists.  If you don't know
> > what this means, read this:
> > http://www.faqs.org/docs/jargon/T/top-post.html
> >
> > To learn what "quote correctly" means, read this:
> > http://www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote2.html
> >
> > If you are using an MS MUA, these free add-on packages can apparently f=
ix
> > their quoting style for you:
> > http://home.in.tum.de/~jain/software/oe-quotefix/
> > http://home.in.tum.de/~jain/software/outlook-quotefix/
[snip]
> Thanks Charles, that worked great. I do appreciate that, so don't please
> don't perceive the rest of this email as a flame as I could not email
> you directly due to your mailing list prefs.
>
> Not sure if I am a "garden variety idiot" or not, and according to your
> link it is great that people who use windoze mua are never that ;)
>
> My wastefull but possibly important rebuttal is that "Cool" is not a
> question or an answer, but rather an interjection, so it could be on any
> line top or bottom, and still not confuse the email.

but you also said more than "cool".. in fact, not counting "Cool!" you type=
d=20
20 lines of text (also counting newlines and a closing.

also, in this most recent email, you did not insert your response to Charle=
s'=20
standard anti-top-posting header below it, you placed it all the way at the=
=20
bottom of the message.

I don't get it, is it really that hard to quote/trim messages?

=2DJeremy

=2D-=20
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Blair Lowe <qmail@domainsunder.ca> wrote:
> > 
> > It does work.  You just put the .qmail file in the wrong place -- you
> > appear to have done it the way the vpopmail MDA expects things, whereas
> > vmailmgr lets you use the native qmail way of doing it.
> > 
> > Create the file <virtualdomainuser>/.qmail-<username> instead and it will
> > work fine.  If you have further questions about this, the vmailmgr list is
> > probably more appropriate.
> 
> Thanks Charles, that worked great.

You're welcome.

> I do appreciate that, so don't please don't perceive the rest of this email
> as a flame as I could not email you directly due to your mailing list prefs.

Uh-oh :).

> Not sure if I am a "garden variety idiot" or not, and according to your link
> it is great that people who use windoze mua are never that ;)

Use of a braindead, non-standards-compliant, buggy, insecure MUA like MS
Outhouse isn't generally a matter of idiocy.  It's a matter of ignorance and
apathy.  That's a good thing, because while there's very little we can do
about the amount of idiocy in the world, correcting ignorance and apathy is
very easy.

Consider my work to be a very small effort in helping to reduce the amount of
ignorance and apathy in the world, and you'll see it it a less negative light.

> My wastefull but possibly important rebuttal is that "Cool" is not a
> question or an answer, but rather an interjection, so it could be on any
> line top or bottom, and still not confuse the email.

Somehow I disagree:

---

> line top or bottom, and still not confuse the email.
> question or an answer, but rather an interjection, so it could be on any
> My wastefull but possibly important rebuttal is that "Cool" is not a

ignorance and apathy in the world, and you'll see it it a less negative light.
Consider my work to be a very small effort in helping to reduce the amount of

very easy.
about the amount of idiocy in the world, correcting ignorance and apathy is
apathy.  That's a good thing, because while there's very little we can do
Outhouse isn't generally a matter of idiocy.  It's a matter of ignorance and
Use of a braindead, non-standards-compliant, buggy, insecure MUA like MS

> it is great that people who use windoze mua are never that ;)
> Not sure if I am a "garden variety idiot" or not, and according to your link

Uh-oh :).

> as a flame as I could not email you directly due to your mailing list prefs.
> I do appreciate that, so don't please don't perceive the rest of this email

You're welcome.

> Thanks Charles, that worked great.
>
> > probably more appropriate.
> > work fine.  If you have further questions about this, the vmailmgr list is
> > Create the file <virtualdomainuser>/.qmail-<username> instead and it will
> >
> > vmailmgr lets you use the native qmail way of doing it.
> > appear to have done it the way the vpopmail MDA expects things, whereas
> > It does work.  You just put the .qmail file in the wrong place -- you

---

And that's /without/ the complete "lack of proper quoting characters" error
that top-posting software generally /also/ foists on the unwary.

If your MUA top-posts by default, that's a very, very strong indicator that
it's probably not a very good MUA.  Switch to something that quotes correctly
by default, and it probably means the author took sufficient care that it's
going to be a better MUA in other respects as well.  Consider `mutt` if you're
looking for a better MUA.

Charles
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On Mon, 9 Jan 2006, Jeremy Kitchen wrote:

> look upwards in that file and find a 'status' line and look.  Are the
> concurrencies maxed?  if so, figure out why.
>
> You said in another (related) thread of yours that you were seeing lots of
> hung qmail-getpw processes... that's probably what's stopping local
> deliveries.
>
> regardless, we need more information from you.
>
> how is your qmail set up?
> what's the full, unedited output of qmail-showctl
> what OS are you running?

After much gnashing of teeth over this problem we pretty much found what
the cause was.

We are completely new to qmail and these systems so it took a while to
get a good handle on how things operated. At first we were increasing the
max incoming connections and such but as it turns out Qmail relies
heavily on a mySQL backend for various things and until we looked at the
SQL stuff we were kinda shooting ourselves in the foot.

It seems the main problem was the sql server was running out of
connections. And the connections that were open were not being reused.
Mysql had a wait_timeout of about 8 hrs.

And with 3 qmail servers all hammering at the same database, opening a lot
of connections, it didnt take long for mysql to run out of max_connections.

Once we looked closely at the mysql server stats we could see what was
happening then changed the max_connections and the timeout value and
restarted qmail one last time and things are coming along nicely.

Though in one queue there were 100k+ messages and in 16 hrs it has barely
gone through half of them. And all these machines are quad Xeon 2.8ghz
machines with tons of ram. But on the bright side mail has stopped being
queued and they are steadily dropping.

So it was not qmail after all. It was doing the right thing all along.
It was something else causing the problems.

Thanks for all your help folks.
Keith.


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Keith Woodworth <keith@citytel.net> writes:

[...]

> We are completely new to qmail and these systems so it took a while to
> get a good handle on how things operated. At first we were increasing the
> max incoming connections and such but as it turns out Qmail relies
> heavily on a mySQL backend for various things and until we looked at the
> SQL stuff we were kinda shooting ourselves in the foot.

FYI, stock qmail doesn't use mySQL at all.  So one of your first steps
in figuring out what patches where applied to your system.

-----Scott.

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Keith Woodworth wrote:
> I wondering if qmail-scanner is having some problems here. From what I
> understand qmail-scanner takes mail from the queue and puts a mail through
> whatever its been setup to do then if it passes gets delivered.

I saw something similar in the logs while I was tuning a qmail 
installation. qmail-scanner passed mail to clamscan to check for virus, 
but in some cases (for large emails) clamscan couldn't allocate any more 
memory and died ungracefully.

Check your qmail-scanner logs to see what happens when qmail doesn't log 
anything else.

Ketil

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> From: Richard Lyons [mailto:frob-qmail@webcentral.com.au]
> Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 12:43 AM
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> On Wed, 11 Jan 2006, Mun Fai Lee wrote:
>=20
> > @4000000043c1fa880d72f094 delivery 40074: deferral:
>
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rs
> ion_number;_connected_to_193.69.20.20./
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> Could be a cipher list mismatch.  193.69.20.20 only supports
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> RC4-MD5 and RC4-SHA, if your cipher list doesn't have them it will be
> difficult to establish an encrypted session.
>=20
> See also =
http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=3Dqmail&m=3D107867276026743&w=3D2,
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> Rick.


How then do I check my cipher list, and add ciphers to it?


Rgds

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On Thu, 2006-01-12 at 09:38 +0800, Mun Fai Lee wrote:

> How then do I check my cipher list, and add ciphers to it?

Depends on which patch you are using for TLS, you'll need to
check your documentation on how to control the cipher list
for your server.  The ciphers available can be listed with
the openssl ciphers command, man ciphers for more info.

Rick.


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Hi,
   
  1)How do qmail provide GSM support? Is there any patch for that? The requirement is to send sms alerts for priority mails. 
   
  2) How can i configure acknowlegement for read mails?
   
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Hi all,

One of my clients wants to forward all email from a specific domain, say
*@example.com to his email address bob@microsoft.com. The problem is, the
qmail server is just acting as a relay server and forwards all email for the
clients domain to their internal groupwise server. Is it possible on the
qmail server to setup a rule to forward all email from *@example.com to
another email address.

Thanks in advance!






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Hello,

> Hi all,
>
> One of my clients wants to forward all email from a specific domain, say
> *@example.com to his email address bob@microsoft.com. The problem is, the
> qmail server is just acting as a relay server and forwards all email for
> the
> clients domain to their internal groupwise server. Is it possible on the
> qmail server to setup a rule to forward all email from *@example.com to
> another email address.
>
> Thanks in advance!

http://www.inter7.com/index.php?page=qmailtap

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Hi

    I have installed vpopmail and qmail-pop3d as per instructions in
qmailrocks. But my problem is , when my users supply the wrong password, it
is not being logged in /var/log/qmail/qmail-pop3d with detail information.
It is simply logging as below:

@4000000043c62f902f260f8c tcpserver: pid 26436 from 202.79.233.24
@4000000043c62f902f4c15ec tcpserver: ok 26436 mail.test.com:202.2.25.246:110
:202.79.233.24::46572
@4000000043c62f90307989cc tcpserver: end 26436 status 256
@4000000043c62f90307be744 tcpserver: status: 0/100
@4000000043c6302f27304b94 tcpserver: status: 1/100


     I cannot see which user is poppping his emails and iff that user
provides wrong password, I have not been able to figure out that he is
supplying wrong password . How do I change this log format so that it will
be as per my requirements ?


Thanking you

Sang


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2006/1/12, SangFroid <sangfroid@mail.com.np>:

>      I cannot see which user is poppping his emails and iff that user
> provides wrong password, I have not been able to figure out that he is
> supplying wrong password . How do I change this log format so that it wil=
l
> be as per my requirements ?

It's a VPOPMAIL compile option, not qmail related.
see ./configure --help of vpopmail. You can log wrong password, wrong user,=
 etc.

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Hi,

Could sombody explain for a newbe (me) how qmail-qmtpd and qmail-qmqpd
works and when to use what.

This is the scenario that i would like to setup:

Four boxes thats gonna comunicate with two qmail-servers. I dont want
thoose four boxes to have any queues localy, I want all and every mail to
be shipped straight to any of the qmail machines.

So what do i need to set this up?

box1 box2 box3 box
   |       |       |      |
   --------------------
        |              |
 qmail_1      qmail_2
           -------
               |
         INTERNET

I've looked at the man pages and the "big picture" but I cant seem to get
it anyway...

Glad for help
/ Erik

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nancy rapheal <nancy_rapheal@yahoo.com> wrote:
>    
> 1)How do qmail provide GSM support? Is there any patch for that? The
> requirement is to send sms alerts for priority mails. 

Lots of people have done smtp-to-sms gateway type things; qmail is just as
capable of using them as anything else.  Do you have a specific question we
can help you with?

> 2) How can i configure acknowlegement for read mails?

The MTA is not involved in this; it's purely a matter for the MUAs.  If you
turn on "read receipts" functionality in your MUA that you use with qmail,
it'll work just fine.

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erik@terapeutikum.se <erik@terapeutikum.se> wrote:
> 
> Could sombody explain for a newbe (me) how qmail-qmtpd and qmail-qmqpd
> works and when to use what.

QMQP and QMTP are mail transmission protocols that don't suffer from some of
the problems of SMTP.  QMTP can be used on a public interface; QMQP is only
suitable for use with trusted clients.

> This is the scenario that i would like to setup:
> 
> Four boxes thats gonna comunicate with two qmail-servers. I dont want
> thoose four boxes to have any queues localy, I want all and every mail to
> be shipped straight to any of the qmail machines.
> 
> So what do i need to set this up?

Set up one normal qmail server.  Run qmail-qmqpd on it on the LAN-side only
(or use a firewall to restrict access to that service).  Then install a
"mini-qmail" installation on each of the four machines you want to run
queue-less; mini-qmail is essentially a qmail installation that uses a QMQP
client as a replacement for qmail-queue, so messages are queued to the remote
QMQP server.

See qmail.org for additional documentation on this.

Charles
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I sent someone an email and received the following message.  What can cause
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<email address of the intended recipient is listed>

172.18.1.64 failed after I sent the message.

Remote host said: 550 5.7.1 Requested action not taken: message refused

 

 

I was sending an email, with a Word doc attached.


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message.=A0
What can cause this?</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
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style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>172.18.1.64 failed =
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style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>Remote host said: =
550 5.7.1
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
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On 1/12/2006 10:44 PM +0200, Joe wrote:
> I sent someone an email and received the following message.  What can cause
> this?

Anything can.

> <email address of the intended recipient is listed>
> 
> 172.18.1.64 failed after I sent the message.
> 
> Remote host said: 550 5.7.1 Requested action not taken: message refused

The remote server gave this as a reason, not a very clear one.

> I was sending an email, with a Word doc attached.

Try sending it zipped.
if that doesn't work, contact 172.18.1.64's admin.

Regards,
Niek


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On Sat, 07 Jan 2006 10:01:53 -0600, Charles Cazabon wrote:
> Blair Lowe <qmail@domainsunder.ca> wrote:
> > Cool!
> 
> Your message was top-posted.  Please configure your MUA to quote correctly
> before sending messages to mailing lists.  If you don't know what this means,
> read this: http://www.faqs.org/docs/jargon/T/top-post.html
> 
> To learn what "quote correctly" means, read this:
> http://www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote2.html
> 
> If you are using an MS MUA, these free add-on packages can apparently fix
  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> their quoting style for you: http://home.in.tum.de/~jain/software/oe-quotefix/
> http://home.in.tum.de/~jain/software/outlook-quotefix/
> [...snip...]

He has used Evolution under Gnome2.

-- 
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Hi people!

I wrote a simple program which check email header for RBL listed IP.
It uses only DJB functions and has 100 lines code.  

http://riemann.fmi.uni-sofia.bg/docs/qmail-rbl.html

Enjoy, Nikola Vladov

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Its interesting that the concept of a white-list feature does not exist. 
Recently I had to whitelist this mail-list, as folks were reporting spam 
from this list, and got listed on an RBL.

Nikola wrote:
> Hi people!
> 
> I wrote a simple program which check email header for RBL listed IP.
> It uses only DJB functions and has 100 lines code.  
> 
> http://riemann.fmi.uni-sofia.bg/docs/qmail-rbl.html
> 
> Enjoy, Nikola Vladov
> 
> 



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-----Original Message-----
From: Niek [mailto:niek@asbak.coding-slaves.com] 
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On 1/12/2006 10:44 PM +0200, Joe wrote:
> I sent someone an email and received the following message.  What can
cause
> this?

Anything can.

> <email address of the intended recipient is listed>
> 
> 172.18.1.64 failed after I sent the message.
> 
> Remote host said: 550 5.7.1 Requested action not taken: message refused

The remote server gave this as a reason, not a very clear one.

> I was sending an email, with a Word doc attached.

Try sending it zipped.
if that doesn't work, contact 172.18.1.64's admin.

Regards,
Niek


Thank you.  Will do so.
Joe

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hi all...

recently our mail server was listed with an rbl db because the machine
sends out the autoreplies with the spam message in it.
on the spamcop site:
http://www.spamcop.net/fom-serve/cache/329.html

it says that the spamcontrol patch helps to avoid that situation. the
thing is i have the patched installed. it's been in place for about 6
months maybe.

the listing in the rbl happened 2 weeks ago.

can somebody please explain if there is a particular configuration file
that is needed for the patches in spamcontrol to avoid this situation.

or is there a way to use autorespond without including the original
message or just stop using autorespond and use a custom 550 message?

thanks a lot....

-- 



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kalin mintchev wrote:
> recently our mail server was listed with an rbl db because the machine
> sends out the autoreplies with the spam message in it.
> on the spamcop site:
> http://www.spamcop.net/fom-serve/cache/329.html
> 
> it says that the spamcontrol patch helps to avoid that situation. the
> thing is i have the patched installed. it's been in place for about 6
> months maybe.

Actually it lists the SPAMCONTROL patch as a solution for misdirected 
bounces. This works because (configured properly) SPAMCONTROL allows you 
to bounce mail destined to nonexistent accounts during the SMTP session. 
In your situation, I'm assuming the recipient has an existing account on 
the system, therefore mail addressed to the recipient will be accepted 
regardless of this feature.

> can somebody please explain if there is a particular configuration file
> that is needed for the patches in spamcontrol to avoid this situation.
> 
> or is there a way to use autorespond without including the original
> message or just stop using autorespond and use a custom 550 message?

In would venture to guess that the reason you were listed on SpamCop 
wasn't because your reply contained the original message, instead it has 
to do with the fact that you replied at all. The forged sender's address 
was probably one of SpamCop's "secret" honeypot addresses. Because these 
addresses aren't published anywhere (as far as I know), they assume that 
any messages that are received via these addresses come from spammers. 
Thus your reply to the forged honeypot address would make it appear as 
though you were a spammer which would result in your listing within 
their database.

So yes, a 550 message would perhaps be a safer way of implementing this 
kind of feature, however, I'm can't think of any easy way implenting 
this off the top of my head. You may be able to find something along 
these lines at www.qmail.org.

-- 
Matt Ferris
matt@bueller.ca


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Nikola wrote:

>Hi people!
>
>I wrote a simple program which check email header for RBL listed IP.
>It uses only DJB functions and has 100 lines code.  
>
>http://riemann.fmi.uni-sofia.bg/docs/qmail-rbl.html
>
>Enjoy, Nikola Vladov
>  
>
Unfortunately, this sort of programs is of very limited use.

1. My authorized clients may come from RBL'ed addresses. For instance, I 
don't want to receive messages from adsl/dialup pools, EXCEPT mail from 
my clients.
2. Quite the same - but for clients of any other mail servers.
3. When mail checker scans the mail, it has been already received.

The only address to be scanned by RBL is address of remote host during 
SMTP session. IMHO, of course.

Alex.



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On Fri, Jan 13, 2006 at 09:49:48AM +0300, Alex Povolotsky wrote:
> 1. My authorized clients may come from RBL'ed addresses. For instance, I=
=20
> don't want to receive messages from adsl/dialup pools, EXCEPT mail from=
=20
> my clients.

the new release of qmail-rblchk can do that

> 2. Quite the same - but for clients of any other mail servers.
> 3. When mail checker scans the mail, it has been already received.

sure, but when you check mails in local delivery you can store that in
separates folders (insted of reject false positive match)

--=20
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On Fri, Jan 13, 2006 at 12:48:57AM +0200, Nikola wrote:
> Hi people!
>=20
> I wrote a simple program which check email header for RBL listed IP.
> It uses only DJB functions and has 100 lines code. =20
>=20
> http://riemann.fmi.uni-sofia.bg/docs/qmail-rbl.html

work like my project:
http://morettoni.net/qmail-rblchk.en.html

(new release is coming in few days with some new features...)

bye!
--=20
Luca Morettoni <luca(AT)morettoni(DOT)net> - http://morettoni.net
GUFI staff/core member <luca(AT)gufi(DOT)org> - http://gufi.org
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thank you for replying....

this is from a mail i got back from them - it wasn't spamcop:
'Your apparent auto-reply contained the entire spam, which caused our spam
filter installation to trigger on it.'
so it must have been that. the reason i think it contained the whole spam
message is that we allow some users to set their own spam preferences and
some of them don't. so the spamfilter didn't tag it. the message was an
auto reply to an user account that no longer exists but has an autoreply
set up to let their customers know about it.
and that's the reason the message actually got sent back to the spamtrap.
so i'll be looking for a 550 solution and disable autorespond in vpopmail.
if somebody has any suggestions please let me know...

thanks...


> kalin mintchev wrote:
>> recently our mail server was listed with an rbl db because the machine
>> sends out the autoreplies with the spam message in it.
>> on the spamcop site:
>> http://www.spamcop.net/fom-serve/cache/329.html
>>
>> it says that the spamcontrol patch helps to avoid that situation. the
>> thing is i have the patched installed. it's been in place for about 6
>> months maybe.
>
> Actually it lists the SPAMCONTROL patch as a solution for misdirected
> bounces. This works because (configured properly) SPAMCONTROL allows you
> to bounce mail destined to nonexistent accounts during the SMTP session.
> In your situation, I'm assuming the recipient has an existing account on
> the system, therefore mail addressed to the recipient will be accepted
> regardless of this feature.
>
>> can somebody please explain if there is a particular configuration file
>> that is needed for the patches in spamcontrol to avoid this situation.
>>
>> or is there a way to use autorespond without including the original
>> message or just stop using autorespond and use a custom 550 message?
>
> In would venture to guess that the reason you were listed on SpamCop
> wasn't because your reply contained the original message, instead it has
> to do with the fact that you replied at all. The forged sender's address
> was probably one of SpamCop's "secret" honeypot addresses. Because these
> addresses aren't published anywhere (as far as I know), they assume that
> any messages that are received via these addresses come from spammers.
> Thus your reply to the forged honeypot address would make it appear as
> though you were a spammer which would result in your listing within
> their database.
>
> So yes, a 550 message would perhaps be a safer way of implementing this
> kind of feature, however, I'm can't think of any easy way implenting
> this off the top of my head. You may be able to find something along
> these lines at www.qmail.org.
>
> --
> Matt Ferris
> matt@bueller.ca
>
>


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On Fri, Jan 13, 2006 at 10:32:51AM +0300, Alex Povolotsky wrote:
> Too many false positives. I'd LOVE blocking incoming mail from=20
> dialup/adsl network, however, I must accept mail originated from them,=20
> but incoming from legitimate mail servers.

I love this too! I filter incoming smtp connection with a private RBL
(with dialups and other bad networks), after that in delivery I filter
again (and I park suspected spam in a separate box)

--=20
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GUFI staff/core member <luca(AT)gufi(DOT)org> - http://gufi.org
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On Fri, Jan 13, 2006 at 08:21:07AM +0100, Luca Morettoni wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 13, 2006 at 09:49:48AM +0300, Alex Povolotsky wrote:
> > 1. My authorized clients may come from RBL'ed addresses. For instance, =
I=20
> > don't want to receive messages from adsl/dialup pools, EXCEPT mail from=
=20
> > my clients.
>=20
> the new release of qmail-rblchk can do that
>=20
> > 2. Quite the same - but for clients of any other mail servers.
> > 3. When mail checker scans the mail, it has been already received.
>=20
> sure, but when you check mails in local delivery you can store that in
> separates folders (insted of reject false positive match)

If you got 100000 spams a day, how many hours
in a day would you be willing to waste time searching for "false
positives" from your "spam folder" without starting to feel "negative"?

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Luca Morettoni wrote:

>On Fri, Jan 13, 2006 at 09:49:48AM +0300, Alex Povolotsky wrote:
>  
>
>>1. My authorized clients may come from RBL'ed addresses. For instance, I 
>>don't want to receive messages from adsl/dialup pools, EXCEPT mail from 
>>my clients.
>>    
>>
>
>the new release of qmail-rblchk can do that
>
>  
>
>>2. Quite the same - but for clients of any other mail servers.
>>3. When mail checker scans the mail, it has been already received.
>>    
>>
>
>sure, but when you check mails in local delivery you can store that in
>separates folders (insted of reject false positive match)
>
>  
>
Too many false positives. I'd LOVE blocking incoming mail from 
dialup/adsl network, however, I must accept mail originated from them, 
but incoming from legitimate mail servers.

Alex.



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Hi people!  Someone ask for white-list-RBL.  I added such feature.
This program is designed to be small and simple!

http://riemann.fmi.uni-sofia.bg/docs/qmail-rbl.html

Enjoy, Nikola

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Luca Morettoni wrote:

>On Fri, Jan 13, 2006 at 10:32:51AM +0300, Alex Povolotsky wrote:
>  
>
>>Too many false positives. I'd LOVE blocking incoming mail from 
>>dialup/adsl network, however, I must accept mail originated from them, 
>>but incoming from legitimate mail servers.
>>    
>>
>
>I love this too! I filter incoming smtp connection with a private RBL
>(with dialups and other bad networks), after that in delivery I filter
>again (and I park suspected spam in a separate box)
>  
>
Well, I'm doing roughly the same. And I've added graylist to qmail-smtp, 
and spam volume dropped at least 10 times. Maybe 20.

However, I'm tired of patchoverpatching qmail-smtpd, and will write 
qmail-compartible SMTP proxy with as flexible checking as possible.

Alex.



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I hope this is the place for this question.  This is more a matter of
curiosity than anything else - that is I am not trying to solve any
problem - djbdns did that.  I recently re-implemented djbdns for cacheing
only.  My question is what name server does this server query?  (I had
thought it was from the secondary and tertiary nameservers entered in
resolv.conf however I am not certain.)






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mike@dakotasioux.com <mike@dakotasioux.com> wrote:
> I hope this is the place for this question.

Nope.  djb maintains a separate list for dns questions.  See
http://cr.yp.to/lists.html for a reference.  MFT set.

> I recently re-implemented djbdns for cacheing only.  My question is what
> name server does this server query?  (I had thought it was from the
> secondary and tertiary nameservers entered in resolv.conf however I am not
> certain.)

No, the servers listed in resolv.conf are not used for anything by dnscache.
dnscache starts from the root servers you've configured in the "@" file and
works down the delegations from there, obeying any overrides in your others
"servers" files.  See the djbdns documentation if you need details.

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hi
pls point some tutorials, docs, faq or how to's on qmail high 
availability clustering

thank you

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On Saturday 14 Jan 2006 08:58, anu bhaskar wrote:
> hi
> pls point some tutorials, docs, faq or how to's on qmail high
> availability clustering
>
> thank you

for a start:
http://shupp.org/maps/ispcluster.html

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How does one integrate the tnef un-packer with qmail?

-Chitta


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On Sat, Jan 14, 2006 at 07:15:36PM +0530, Chittaranjan Mandal wrote:
> How does one integrate the tnef un-packer with qmail?

I imagine most people use qmail-scanner or a similar package. 

-dsr-

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On Sat, 2006-01-14 at 22:36, dsr@tao.merseine.nu wrote:

> > How does one integrate the tnef un-packer with qmail?
> 
> I imagine most people use qmail-scanner or a similar package. 
Qmail-scanner uses tnef to unpack and scan the mails but, I
suppose it leaves the original mail intact.



On Sat, 2006-01-14 at 22:18, Cristiano Deana wrote:

> > How does one integrate the tnef un-packer with qmail?
> 
> It's not a MTA problem, it's a client problem. Maybe you're interested in
> http://tnef.sourceforge.net/
True, I already have tnef installed. But linux MUAs do not seem to
handle the problem as yet. It essentially involves re-analyzing the
matter within the warped attachment. A qmail solution just might
be far more easily achievable.

-Chitta


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Hi,
        I reinstalled perl as per the instructions in
http://freebsd.qmailrocks.org/suidperl.htm as on running
/downloads/qmailrocks/qmail-scanner-1.24/contrib/test_installation -doit
script, it gave some problems. But still this time, it is saying


 sh test_installation.sh -doit
QMAILQUEUE not set, defaulting to /var/qmail/bin/qmail-scanner-queue.pl for
this test...

Sending standard test message - no viruses...
qmail-inject: fatal: unable to exec qq (#4.3.0)
Bad error. qmail-inject died


 Also I have set softlimit as per the instructions .

May I know where I might have slipped ??

Sang



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ok I managed the problem regarding QMAILQUEUE not set, but still it is
giving me the following err msg.


sh test_installation.sh -doit

Sending standard test message - no viruses...
qmail-inject: fatal: unable to exec qq (#4.3.0)
Bad error. qmail-inject died


I have reinstalled perl too....

Sang

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> Hi,
>         I reinstalled perl as per the instructions in
> http://freebsd.qmailrocks.org/suidperl.htm as on running
> /downloads/qmailrocks/qmail-scanner-1.24/contrib/test_installation -doit
> script, it gave some problems. But still this time, it is saying
>
>
>  sh test_installation.sh -doit
> QMAILQUEUE not set, defaulting to /var/qmail/bin/qmail-scanner-queue.pl
for
> this test...
>
> Sending standard test message - no viruses...
> qmail-inject: fatal: unable to exec qq (#4.3.0)
> Bad error. qmail-inject died
>
>
>  Also I have set softlimit as per the instructions .
>
> May I know where I might have slipped ??
>
> Sang
>
>


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Aah!!!....resolved it... it was problem with perl..it was not present in
correct location :)

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From: "SangFroid" <sangfroid@mail.com.np>
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> ok I managed the problem regarding QMAILQUEUE not set, but still it is
> giving me the following err msg.
>
>
> sh test_installation.sh -doit
>
> Sending standard test message - no viruses...
> qmail-inject: fatal: unable to exec qq (#4.3.0)
> Bad error. qmail-inject died
>
>
> I have reinstalled perl too....
>
> Sang
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "SangFroid" <sangfroid@mail.com.np>
> To: <qmail@list.cr.yp.to>
> Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2006 12:41 PM
> Subject: Bad error. qmail-inject died
>
>
> > Hi,
> >         I reinstalled perl as per the instructions in
> > http://freebsd.qmailrocks.org/suidperl.htm as on running
> > /downloads/qmailrocks/qmail-scanner-1.24/contrib/test_installation -doit
> > script, it gave some problems. But still this time, it is saying
> >
> >
> >  sh test_installation.sh -doit
> > QMAILQUEUE not set, defaulting to /var/qmail/bin/qmail-scanner-queue.pl
> for
> > this test...
> >
> > Sending standard test message - no viruses...
> > qmail-inject: fatal: unable to exec qq (#4.3.0)
> > Bad error. qmail-inject died
> >
> >
> >  Also I have set softlimit as per the instructions .
> >
> > May I know where I might have slipped ??
> >
> > Sang
> >
> >
>


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Hi 

It is possible to integrate winbind an Qmail POP3 to authenticate against a
w2k3 server?

(With or without vpopmail)

What components must be used?

 

THX

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Hello all,

It's working just well enough that I can be fooled for
a short time.  But the bulk of messages aren't getting
through on my server I just converted to FreeBSD from
Linux.  It is FreeBSD 6.0-release.

Trying to resolve this problem, I took out the rbldns
stuff, and made changes per G.10 in Life With Qmail. 
None of this is making any difference.

The run file for qmal-smtpd now looks like:

cat /var/service/qmail-smtpd/run
#!/bin/sh
QMAILDUID=`id -u qmaild`
NOFILESGID=`id -g qmaild`
MAXSMTPD=`cat /var/qmail/control/concurrencyincoming`
if [ -z "$QMAILDUID" -o -z "$NOFILESGID" -o -z
"$MAXSMTPD" ]; then
    echo QMAILDUID, NOFILESGID, or MAXSMTPD is unset
in
    echo /var/qmail/supervise/qmail-smtpd/run
    exit 1
fi
exec /usr/local/bin/softlimit -m 4000000 \
    /usr/local/bin/tcpserver -v -H -P -R -l 0 -x
/etc/tcp.smtp.cdb -c "$MAXSMTPD" \
        -u "$QMAILDUID" -g "$NOFILESGID" 0 smtp \
                        /var/qmail/bin/qmail-smtpd
2>&1

The installation is (now) a netqmail-1.05 with the
doublebounce patch, with an attempt to clean up some
after the FreeBSD port installation (I moved aside the
port-created /var/qmail/bin and re-ran 'make setup
check').  The configuration is largely copied over
from the old Linux installation.

I am seeing nothing unusual in the qmail-smtpd log
except a paucity of mail coming through.  tcpdump
reveals a heavy flow of spam and occasional legitimate
mail on port 25 that qmail-smtpd doesn't respond to.

Some cron messages from my local network do seem to
make it through.  Some spam makes it through.  Some
mail from news sites makes it through.  I seem to be
able to send from off site.  I did receive one e-mail
from a friend.  Like I said, it's working just well
enough to fool.  But the volume is way, way down.

Help!  Thanks!

David Benfell
white_line_fever@yahoo.com

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David Benfell spake thusly on Mon, Jan 16, 2006 at 06:52:16AM -0800:
> #!/bin/sh
> QMAILDUID=`id -u qmaild`
> NOFILESGID=`id -g qmaild`
> MAXSMTPD=`cat /var/qmail/control/concurrencyincoming`
> if [ -z "$QMAILDUID" -o -z "$NOFILESGID" -o -z
> "$MAXSMTPD" ]; then
>     echo QMAILDUID, NOFILESGID, or MAXSMTPD is unset
> in
>     echo /var/qmail/supervise/qmail-smtpd/run
>     exit 1
> fi
> exec /usr/local/bin/softlimit -m 4000000 \
>     /usr/local/bin/tcpserver -v -H -P -R -l 0 -x
> /etc/tcp.smtp.cdb -c "$MAXSMTPD" \
>         -u "$QMAILDUID" -g "$NOFILESGID" 0 smtp \
>                         /var/qmail/bin/qmail-smtpd
> 2>&1

Hi David,

You can always try raising the softlimit, a meg at a time until you see stuff flowing. Are you running any anti-spam or anti-virus software, like clamav or spamassassin? It could be that you're running out of memory on some messages?

I've found that if I run spamassassin and clamav, I can't set the softlimit less than 20-21 meg.

Regards,
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--- Richard Feldmann <rhun@oaksage.dyndns.org> wrote:

> You can always try raising the softlimit, a meg at a
> time until you see stuff flowing.

Okay.  I've raised it now to 6MB.  We'll see how that
goes...

> Are you running
> any anti-spam or anti-virus software, like clamav or
> spamassassin?

I run spamassassin but only on messages that have been
safely delivered.  I figured out that spamassassin has
a few too many ways to fail, leading to indefinite
deferrals (until failure).

I should make some comments about my setup, however. 
For practical purposes, I have a FreeBSD system which
is my primary mail server.  It runs packet filtering
explicitly to block e-mail on the outside interface
because the mail should be getting passed through my
OpenBSD router, which runs spamd, using white and
black lists from relaydb.

And indeed tcpdump is showing ample smtp traffic on
the correct interface (to the router).

For this demonstration, I already have a 'tail -f
/var/log/qmail/current|tai64nlocal' running in
background:

earth# jobs
[1]  + running    tail -f /var/log/qmail/current |
tai64nlocal
earth# qmailctl stop
Stopping qmail...
  qmail-smtpd
  qmail-send
  qmail-pop3d
2006-01-16 08:34:34.746137500 status: exiting
earth# qmailctl start
Starting qmail
earth# 2006-01-16 08:34:39.392168500 status: local
0/10 remote 0/20
2006-01-16 08:34:50.569058500 new msg 989228
2006-01-16 08:34:50.570078500 info msg 989228: bytes
1850 from <benfell@lupin.cybernude.org> qp 66305 uid
82
2006-01-16 08:34:50.572074500 starting delivery 1: msg
989228 to local benfell@cybernude.org
2006-01-16 08:34:50.572410500 status: local 1/10
remote 0/20
2006-01-16 08:34:50.580665500 delivery 1: success:
did_1+0+0/
2006-01-16 08:34:50.581220500 status: local 0/10
remote 0/20
2006-01-16 08:34:50.581224500 end msg 989228
vim /var/service/qmail-smtpd/run2006-01-16
08:34:59.988066500 new msg 989678
2006-01-16 08:34:59.988974500 info msg 989678: bytes
1166 from <root@lupin.cybernude.org> qp 66329 uid 82
2006-01-16 08:34:59.990902500 starting delivery 2: msg
989678 to local benfell@cybernude.org
2006-01-16 08:34:59.991223500 status: local 1/10
remote 0/20
2006-01-16 08:34:59.999185500 delivery 2: success:
did_1+0+0/
2006-01-16 08:34:59.999721500 status: local 0/10
remote 0/20
2006-01-16 08:34:59.999725500 end msg 989678          
                                                      
                              tcpdump -i rl1 port 25  
       
tcpdump: verbose output suppressed, use -v or -vv for
full protocol decode
listening on rl1, link-type EN10MB (Ethernet), capture
size 96 bytes
08:35:13.489485 IP TYO200.gate.nec.co.jp.54647 >
earth.cybernude.org.smtp: S 51296288:51296288(0) win 0
<mss 1460>
08:35:13.585756 IP 80.120.1.132.11340 >
earth.cybernude.org.smtp: S 1364977068:1364977068(0)
win 0 <mss 1380>
08:35:13.651529 IP mail.yorkshirewater.co.uk.1300 >
earth.cybernude.org.smtp: S 2674049564:2674049564(0)
win 0 <mss 1380>
08:35:14.363149 IP
mail00.svc.cra.dublin.eircom.net.24940 >
earth.cybernude.org.smtp: S 2090594407:2090594407(0)
win 0 <mss 1460>
08:35:14.881231 IP corona.aitai.ne.jp.56552 >
earth.cybernude.org.smtp: S 2826476461:2826476461(0)
win 0 <mss 1460>
08:35:15.279112 IP addr16.addr.com.3578 >
earth.cybernude.org.smtp: S 3876909348:3876909348(0)
win 0 <mss 1460>
08:35:15.807537 IP 58.17.35.110.dbreporter >
earth.cybernude.org.smtp: S 4187760367:4187760367(0)
win 0 <mss 1460>
08:35:16.121049 IP mail.wyg.com.10944 >
earth.cybernude.org.smtp: S 794997282:794997282(0) win
0 <mss 1460>
08:35:16.155415 IP smtp1.wanadoo.co.uk.5290 >
earth.cybernude.org.smtp: S 132148450:132148450(0) win
0 <mss 1380>
08:35:17.587373 IP loki.regasia.com.1970 >
earth.cybernude.org.smtp: S 1316052049:1316052049(0)
win 0 <mss 1460>
08:35:17.931821 IP ns2.ns2.de.58989 >
earth.cybernude.org.smtp: S 800962074:800962074(0) win
0 <mss 1460>
08:35:18.188648 IP
ip64-48-254-155.z254-48-64.customer.algx.net.3353 >
earth.cybernude.org.smtp: S 2411677260:2411677260(0)
win 0 <mss 1460>
08:35:18.307275 IP 67.69.112.226.40737 >
earth.cybernude.org.smtp: S 71692329:71692329(0) win 0
<mss 1385>
08:35:18.592799 IP d01gw01.mi8.com.rgtp >
earth.cybernude.org.smtp: S 3933437573:3933437573(0)
win 0 <mss 1380>
08:35:19.710716 IP rrcs-mta-01.hrndva.rr.com.49674 >
earth.cybernude.org.smtp: S 1696819229:1696819229(0)
win 0 <mss 1460>
08:35:20.039666 IP 84.237.143.16.docstor >
earth.cybernude.org.smtp: S 3546764088:3546764088(0)
win 0 <mss 1460>
08:35:21.251245 IP 12.16.44.214.7402 >
earth.cybernude.org.smtp: R 3768057875:3768057875(0)
ack 835703799 win 0
08:35:21.251298 IP mail.greyinteractive.com.24351 >
earth.cybernude.org.smtp: R 1465055527:1465055527(0)
ack 237135419 win 0
08:35:21.251308 IP
host217-37-27-245.in-addr.btopenworld.com.64797 >
earth.cybernude.org.smtp: R 331632997:331632997(0) ack
717326931 win 0
08:35:21.251358 IP sv4.phoenisys.ne.jp.33347 >
earth.cybernude.org.smtp: R 3046470715:3046470715(0)
ack 4083370394 win 0
08:35:21.251368 IP ns-1.netart.cz.58255 >
earth.cybernude.org.smtp: R 4235043336:4235043336(0)
ack 3293612986 win 0
08:35:21.251425 IP corona.aitai.ne.jp.55298 >
earth.cybernude.org.smtp: R 2832002869:2832002869(0)
ack 208297910 win 0
08:35:21.251430 IP firewall.abgraphics.com.2063 >
earth.cybernude.org.smtp: R 371475769:371475769(0) ack
1263661285 win 0
08:35:21.251476 IP lists.tnr.com.39265 >
earth.cybernude.org.smtp: R 99513732:99513732(0) ack
466555999 win 0
08:35:21.251485 IP hccs.europe.hcch.com.26062 >
earth.cybernude.org.smtp: R 3381420792:3381420792(0)
ack 856550558 win 0
08:35:21.251530 IP
70-88-245-41-ma-nh-me-ne.hfc.comcastbusiness.net.65153
> earth.cybernude.org.smtp: R 3596830167:3596830167(0)
ack 3542973082 win 0
^C08:35:21.251541 IP lsh139.siteprotect.com.55849 >
earth.cybernude.org.smtp: R 4275254658:4275254658(0)
ack 2488791578 win 0

27 packets captured
84 packets received by filter
0 packets dropped by kernel
earth# 

As you can see, qmail-smtpd has responded to only two
messages.  And I've found no way to predict which
messages it will respond to.  I really just know that
it responds to some.

> It could be that you're running out of
> memory on some messages?

Would this not produce some sort of error in the log?
> 
> I've found that if I run spamassassin and clamav, I
> can't set the softlimit less than 20-21 meg.

I've certainly seen cases where operating system
differences affect resource requirements with DJB's
software in the past.  And I can't rule it out here.  Thanks!

David Benfell
white_line_fever@yahoo.com

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--- Richard Feldmann <rhun@oaksage.dyndns.org> wrote:

> You can always try raising the softlimit, a meg at a
> time until you see stuff flowing.

No luck.  The limit is now at 20MB with no discernable
change.  Any other ideas?

Thanks!

David Benfell
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On Mon, Jan 16, 2006 at 10:38:40AM -0800, David Benfell wrote:
> 
> 
> --- Richard Feldmann <rhun@oaksage.dyndns.org> wrote:
> 
> > You can always try raising the softlimit, a meg at a
> > time until you see stuff flowing.
> 
> No luck.  The limit is now at 20MB with no discernable
> change.  Any other ideas?

What's the tcpserver concurrency limit?  Make it bigger.
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On 1/16/2006 3:52 PM +0100, David Benfell wrote:
> cat /var/service/qmail-smtpd/run
> #!/bin/sh
> QMAILDUID=`id -u qmaild`
> NOFILESGID=`id -g qmaild`
> MAXSMTPD=`cat /var/qmail/control/concurrencyincoming`
> if [ -z "$QMAILDUID" -o -z "$NOFILESGID" -o -z
> "$MAXSMTPD" ]; then
>     echo QMAILDUID, NOFILESGID, or MAXSMTPD is unset
> in
>     echo /var/qmail/supervise/qmail-smtpd/run
>     exit 1
> fi
> exec /usr/local/bin/softlimit -m 4000000 \
>     /usr/local/bin/tcpserver -v -H -P -R -l 0 -x
> /etc/tcp.smtp.cdb -c "$MAXSMTPD" \
>         -u "$QMAILDUID" -g "$NOFILESGID" 0 smtp \
>                         /var/qmail/bin/qmail-smtpd
> 2>&1
> 

Hi David,

What's the value of /var/qmail/control/concurrencyincoming
Is there any kind of ratelimiter (iptables) working on the box or in front of 
the box ?

Regards,

Niek Baakman

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--- Sami Farin <safari-qmail@safari.iki.fi> wrote:

> What's the tcpserver concurrency limit?  Make it
> bigger.

It was 20.  I've now raised it to 50.  The machine has
a 1.6G processor so I'm assuming I can raise it more.

> And try also tcpserver -b 1000.

Done.

earth# qmailctl stop
Stopping qmail...
  qmail-smtpd
  qmail-send
  qmail-pop3d
earth# tail -f /var/log/qmail/current|tai64nlocal 
2006-01-16 11:34:50.173042500 status: local 0/10
remote 0/20
2006-01-16 11:34:50.173045500 end msg 989228
2006-01-16 11:35:00.965412500 new msg 989639
2006-01-16 11:35:00.966305500 info msg 989639: bytes
1167 from <root@lupin.cybernude.org> qp 88045 uid 82
2006-01-16 11:35:00.968381500 starting delivery 6: msg
989639 to local benfell@cybernude.org
2006-01-16 11:35:00.968697500 status: local 1/10
remote 0/20
2006-01-16 11:35:00.976564500 delivery 6: success:
did_1+0+0/
2006-01-16 11:35:00.977086500 status: local 0/10
remote 0/20
2006-01-16 11:35:00.977090500 end msg 989639
2006-01-16 12:07:15.453988500 status: exiting
^Z      
zsh: suspended  tail -f /var/log/qmail/current |
tai64nlocal
earth# bg
[1]  + continued  tail -f /var/log/qmail/current |
tai64nlocal
earth# cat /var/service/qmail-smtpd/run       
#!/bin/sh
QMAILDUID=`id -u qmaild`
NOFILESGID=`id -g qmaild`
MAXSMTPD=`cat /var/qmail/control/concurrencyincoming`
if [ -z "$QMAILDUID" -o -z "$NOFILESGID" -o -z
"$MAXSMTPD" ]; then
    echo QMAILDUID, NOFILESGID, or MAXSMTPD is unset
in
    echo /var/qmail/supervise/qmail-smtpd/run
    exit 1
fi
exec /usr/local/bin/softlimit -m 20000000 \
    /usr/local/bin/tcpserver -v -H -P -R -l 0 -b 1000
-x /etc/tcp.smtp.cdb -c "$MAXSMTPD" \
        -u "$QMAILDUID" -g "$NOFILESGID" 0 smtp \
                        /var/qmail/bin/qmail-smtpd
2>&1
earth# qmailctl start
Starting qmail
earth# 2006-01-16 12:08:38.684760500 status: local
0/10 remote 0/20

Apparently, no luck.  Thanks!

David Benfell
white_line_fever@yahoo.com

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On 1/16/2006 9:11 PM +0100, David Benfell wrote:
> earth# qmailctl stop
> Stopping qmail...
>   qmail-smtpd
>   qmail-send
>   qmail-pop3d
> earth# tail -f /var/log/qmail/current|tai64nlocal 
> 2006-01-16 11:34:50.173042500 status: local 0/10
> remote 0/20
> 2006-01-16 11:34:50.173045500 end msg 989228
> 2006-01-16 11:35:00.965412500 new msg 989639
> 2006-01-16 11:35:00.966305500 info msg 989639: bytes
> 1167 from <root@lupin.cybernude.org> qp 88045 uid 82
> 2006-01-16 11:35:00.968381500 starting delivery 6: msg
> 989639 to local benfell@cybernude.org
> 2006-01-16 11:35:00.968697500 status: local 1/10
> remote 0/20
> 2006-01-16 11:35:00.976564500 delivery 6: success:
> did_1+0+0/
> 2006-01-16 11:35:00.977086500 status: local 0/10
> remote 0/20
> 2006-01-16 11:35:00.977090500 end msg 989639
> 2006-01-16 12:07:15.453988500 status: exiting
> ^Z      
> zsh: suspended  tail -f /var/log/qmail/current |
> tai64nlocal
> earth# bg
> [1]  + continued  tail -f /var/log/qmail/current |
> tai64nlocal
> earth# cat /var/service/qmail-smtpd/run       
> #!/bin/sh
> QMAILDUID=`id -u qmaild`
> NOFILESGID=`id -g qmaild`
> MAXSMTPD=`cat /var/qmail/control/concurrencyincoming`
> if [ -z "$QMAILDUID" -o -z "$NOFILESGID" -o -z
> "$MAXSMTPD" ]; then
>     echo QMAILDUID, NOFILESGID, or MAXSMTPD is unset
> in
>     echo /var/qmail/supervise/qmail-smtpd/run
>     exit 1
> fi
> exec /usr/local/bin/softlimit -m 20000000 \
>     /usr/local/bin/tcpserver -v -H -P -R -l 0 -b 1000
> -x /etc/tcp.smtp.cdb -c "$MAXSMTPD" \
>         -u "$QMAILDUID" -g "$NOFILESGID" 0 smtp \
>                         /var/qmail/bin/qmail-smtpd
> 2>&1
> earth# qmailctl start
> Starting qmail
> earth# 2006-01-16 12:08:38.684760500 status: local
> 0/10 remote 0/20
> 
> Apparently, no luck.  Thanks!
> 
> David Benfell
> white_line_fever@yahoo.com

Eer, you stop qmail, so no new mail comes in.
Then you tail -f the qmail-send log, which probably isn't doing much as no new 
mail is coming in.
Then you start qmail again.

I'd say fire up 2 terminals. On one tail -f the qmail/current file
and on the other tail -f the qmail/smtpd/current file.

qmail/smtpd/current records connections to port 25, and qmail/current
records local and remote mail deliveries.

Good luck,

Niek Baakman


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On Mon, Jan 16, 2006 at 12:11:18PM -0800, David Benfell wrote:
>=20
>=20
> --- Sami Farin <safari-qmail@safari.iki.fi> wrote:
>=20
> > What's the tcpserver concurrency limit?  Make it
> > bigger.
>=20
> It was 20.  I've now raised it to 50.  The machine has
> a 1.6G processor so I'm assuming I can raise it more.

Hz-value of CPU is irrelevant, unless you run some brainless
CPU hogs on each qmail-smtpd invocation.

Measure max memory usage per one qmail-smtpd invocation,
then divide amount of RAM (minus some extra for OS etc.)
by mem used by qmail-smtpd.=20
That's your tcpserver concurrency limit (or near the optimal).
I believe.

And like Niek said, show the correct logs.

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Have somewhat of a problem people are complaining about.

A person sends one email, yet the recipient will recieve that same message
up to 10 times.

When the person sends an email, they get a timeout from their mail client
saying it could not contact the mailserver, yet their mail went out and
gets delivered to the recipient multiple times. This happens with OE,
Outlook and Incredimail as far as I can tell.

I can see in the log that the mail goes out many times. This is happening
to quite a few people, as well there have been a few cases (and I
verified this once myself) that someone sending mail from remote (in this
case a Gmail account) to a local recip, where the local recip got the
mail 6 times.

This is happening to too many people to be an isolated instance of one
person clicking on send/recieve a bunch of times.

Anyone seen this before? Any fix?

Thanks,
Keith.






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--- Sami Farin <safari-qmail@safari.iki.fi> wrote:

> And like Niek said, show the correct logs.

Ouch.  That was truly brainless of me.  I'm less
familiar with this log and don't really know what to
look for.  What I do see are connections from
192.168.19.1 -- the OpenBSD router:

2006-01-16 09:34:50.068849500 tcpserver: end 73492
status 0
2006-01-16 09:34:50.068950500 tcpserver: status: 0/20
2006-01-16 09:34:59.478310500 tcpserver: status: 1/20
2006-01-16 09:34:59.478698500 tcpserver: pid 73515
from 192.168.19.1
2006-01-16 09:34:59.478857500 tcpserver: ok 73515
0:192.168.19.243:25 :192.168.19.1::40402
2006-01-16 09:34:59.487208500 tcpserver: end 73515
status 0
2006-01-16 09:34:59.487275500 tcpserver: status: 0/20
2006-01-16 09:52:12.087613500 tcpserver: status: 0/20
2006-01-16 10:25:10.195664500 tcpserver: status: 0/20
2006-01-16 10:34:49.479306500 tcpserver: status: 1/20
2006-01-16 10:34:49.479705500 tcpserver: pid 80844
from 192.168.19.1
2006-01-16 10:34:49.479860500 tcpserver: ok 80844
0:192.168.19.243:25 :192.168.19.1::26533
2006-01-16 10:34:49.586527500 tcpserver: end 80844
status 0
2006-01-16 10:34:49.586710500 tcpserver: status: 0/20
2006-01-16 10:35:00.006707500 tcpserver: status: 1/20
2006-01-16 10:35:00.007076500 tcpserver: pid 80870
from 192.168.19.1
2006-01-16 10:35:00.007234500 tcpserver: ok 80870
0:192.168.19.243:25 :192.168.19.1::3291
2006-01-16 10:35:00.014917500 tcpserver: end 80870
status 0
2006-01-16 10:35:00.015083500 tcpserver: status: 0/20
2006-01-16 11:30:36.135013500 tcpserver: status: 1/20
2006-01-16 11:30:36.135382500 tcpserver: pid 87498
from 192.168.19.1
2006-01-16 11:30:36.135536500 tcpserver: ok 87498
0:192.168.19.243:25 :192.168.19.1::47578
2006-01-16 11:30:36.143980500 tcpserver: end 87498
status 0
2006-01-16 11:30:36.144052500 tcpserver: status: 0/20
2006-01-16 11:30:36.343131500 tcpserver: status: 1/20
2006-01-16 11:30:36.343507500 tcpserver: pid 87503
from 192.168.19.1
2006-01-16 11:30:36.343702500 tcpserver: ok 87503
0:192.168.19.243:25 :192.168.19.1::21960
2006-01-16 11:30:36.352489500 tcpserver: end 87503
status 0
2006-01-16 11:30:36.352562500 tcpserver: status: 0/20
2006-01-16 11:34:50.054323500 tcpserver: status: 1/20
2006-01-16 11:34:50.055358500 tcpserver: pid 88015
from 192.168.19.1
2006-01-16 11:34:50.055522500 tcpserver: ok 88015
0:192.168.19.243:25 :192.168.19.1::32156
2006-01-16 11:34:50.161619500 tcpserver: end 88015
status 0
2006-01-16 11:34:50.161693500 tcpserver: status: 0/20
2006-01-16 11:35:00.957634500 tcpserver: status: 1/20
2006-01-16 11:35:00.958002500 tcpserver: pid 88044
from 192.168.19.1
2006-01-16 11:35:00.958157500 tcpserver: ok 88044
0:192.168.19.243:25 :192.168.19.1::15908
2006-01-16 11:35:00.965853500 tcpserver: end 88044
status 0
2006-01-16 11:35:00.966019500 tcpserver: status: 0/20
2006-01-16 12:08:38.693932500 tcpserver: status: 0/50
2006-01-16 12:34:50.036651500 tcpserver: status: 1/50
2006-01-16 12:34:50.037042500 tcpserver: pid 95315
from 192.168.19.1
2006-01-16 12:34:50.037194500 tcpserver: ok 95315
0:192.168.19.243:25 :192.168.19.1::8251
2006-01-16 12:34:50.143702500 tcpserver: end 95315
status 0
2006-01-16 12:34:50.143779500 tcpserver: status: 0/50
2006-01-16 12:35:00.088316500 tcpserver: status: 1/50
2006-01-16 12:35:00.088702500 tcpserver: pid 95338
from 192.168.19.1
2006-01-16 12:35:00.088858500 tcpserver: ok 95338
0:192.168.19.243:25 :192.168.19.1::29128
2006-01-16 12:35:00.100852500 tcpserver: end 95338
status 0
2006-01-16 12:35:00.104302500 tcpserver: status: 0/50
earth# 


David Benfell
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On Mon, Jan 16, 2006 at 01:30:37PM -0800, David Benfell wrote:
>=20
>=20
> --- Sami Farin <safari-qmail@safari.iki.fi> wrote:
>=20
> > And like Niek said, show the correct logs.
>=20
> Ouch.  That was truly brainless of me.  I'm less
> familiar with this log and don't really know what to
> look for.  What I do see are connections from
> 192.168.19.1 -- the OpenBSD router:
>=20
=2E..
> 2006-01-16 10:34:49.479306500 tcpserver: status: 1/20
> 2006-01-16 10:34:49.479705500 tcpserver: pid 80844
> from 192.168.19.1
> 2006-01-16 10:34:49.479860500 tcpserver: ok 80844
> 0:192.168.19.243:25 :192.168.19.1::26533
> 2006-01-16 10:34:49.586527500 tcpserver: end 80844
> status 0
> 2006-01-16 10:34:49.586710500 tcpserver: status: 0/20
> 2006-01-16 10:35:00.006707500 tcpserver: status: 1/20
> 2006-01-16 10:35:00.007076500 tcpserver: pid 80870
> from 192.168.19.1
> 2006-01-16 10:35:00.007234500 tcpserver: ok 80870
> 0:192.168.19.243:25 :192.168.19.1::3291
> 2006-01-16 10:35:00.014917500 tcpserver: end 80870
> status 0
> 2006-01-16 10:35:00.015083500 tcpserver: status: 0/20
> 2006-01-16 11:30:36.135013500 tcpserver: status: 1/20

Maybe you should recheck openbsd configuration.
It seems to deliver only one email per hour to qmail.
Maybe you have enabled greylist feature in openbsd spamd.
If you disable that, qmail might get to see a bit more
emails.  Or configure timeouts, or something...

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Keith Woodworth <keith@citytel.net> writes:

> Have somewhat of a problem people are complaining about.
>
> A person sends one email, yet the recipient will recieve that same message
> up to 10 times.
>
> When the person sends an email, they get a timeout from their mail client
> saying it could not contact the mailserver, yet their mail went out and
> gets delivered to the recipient multiple times. This happens with OE,
> Outlook and Incredimail as far as I can tell.

It sounds like a mail server is timing out somewhere.  There's a time
period in SMTP, between sending the DATA command and receiving a
response, where it's impossible to know whether the message has been
succesfully sent.  If a mail server does something slow between the
DATA command and sending its response (like scan for viruses or spam
on a busy server), an SMTP client may time out waiting for the DATA
response, and decide to re-send the message.  In the meantime, the
server may have finished with the message and delivered it before
noticing that the client has gone away.

If your server is the SMTP client in this scenario, increase your
timeouts.  If it's the SMTP server, speed up your mail processing.
Either way, your logs should give more details.

Good luck!

----Scott.

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2006/1/16, David Benfell <white_line_fever@yahoo.com>:

> The installation is (now) a netqmail-1.05 with the
> doublebounce patch, with an attempt to clean up some
> after the FreeBSD port installation (I moved aside the
> port-created /var/qmail/bin and re-ran 'make setup
> check').  The configuration is largely copied over
> from the old Linux installation.

Did you use a /var/qmail/queue installed from ports with netqmail?
If either qmail ports or netqmail was installed with big_todo_patch
and the other was'nt you got these problems.

Deinstall your(s) qmail DELETE your /var/qmail and use ONLY qmail
ports, it works fine.

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--- Cristiano Deana <cristiano.deana@gmail.com> wrote:

> 2006/1/16, David Benfell
> <white_line_fever@yahoo.com>:
> 
> > The installation is (now) a netqmail-1.05 with the
> > doublebounce patch, with an attempt to clean up
> some
> > after the FreeBSD port installation (I moved aside
> the
> > port-created /var/qmail/bin and re-ran 'make setup
> > check').  The configuration is largely copied over
> > from the old Linux installation.
> 
> Did you use a /var/qmail/queue installed from ports
> with netqmail?
> If either qmail ports or netqmail was installed with
> big_todo_patch
> and the other was'nt you got these problems.

I have never selected the big_todo patch.  To be
honest, I don't understand what it is for.  Would a
queue problem prevent SMTP traffic from connecting
without any entry at all in the qmail-smtpd log? 
> 
> Deinstall your(s) qmail DELETE your /var/qmail and
> use ONLY qmail
> ports, it works fine.

Perhaps for you.  This is the way I started, just
copying in my old control directory.  It didn't work. 
And in fact I almost immediately had a problem with 23
messages stuck in the queue but not pre-processed. 
The only solution I could find with Google was to
delete the queue, losing those 23 messages, whatever
they were, and recreate it with 'make setup check'
from the build directory in the port.  And it still
wasn't working.

I also observe that the qmail ports do not set qmail
up as per Life With Qmail, rely on the syslog facility
for logging, and indeed appear intended to run under
(gasp) inetd.  I do, however, appreciate the fact that
the port pointed out the existence of the
doublebounce-trim patch.

I'm glad it all works for you.  My experience is
different.

There are a lot of things I like about FreeBSD.  I
especially like the ease of updating the software and
I appreciate the intent of the ports system.  That's
why I chose to blow away the Linux installation and
switch to FreeBSD.

But my experience is that it really seems not to get
along with some of DJB's software well.  I had to move
my local network DNS services to the OpenBSD router
because even though I had allocated separate IP
addresses, subsequent instances of anything djbdns
related (including rbldns) after the initial tinydns
(for the outside world) and dnscache insisted that it
could not bind to the UDP port.  It just wouldn't work
on the FreeBSD system.

But I had no trouble when I moved the services onto
the OpenBSD router.

And the way things are going, I'm going to have to
move my mail service to the OpenBSD router as well. 
While that system has some spare capacity, my security
design does not call for that system to be opened up
to users.


David Benfell
white_line_fever@yahoo.com

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2006/1/17, David Benfell <white_line_fever@yahoo.com>:

> I also observe that the qmail ports do not set qmail
> up as per Life With Qmail, rely on the syslog facility
> for logging,

No. That's "splogger" used by qmail.sh. You can choose to not install
it (ports option) and use daemontools (as i do) or modify it.

> and indeed appear intended to run under
> (gasp) inetd.

Absolutetly NOT.

> I'm glad it all works for you.  My experience is
> different.

Can't be different, same operating system, same MTA. :)

> But my experience is that it really seems not to get
> along with some of DJB's software well.  I had to move
> my local network DNS services to the OpenBSD router
> because even though I had allocated separate IP
> addresses, subsequent instances of anything djbdns
> related (including rbldns) after the initial tinydns
> (for the outside world) and dnscache insisted that it
> could not bind to the UDP port.  It just wouldn't work
> on the FreeBSD system.

Oh, please!!

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--- Niek <niek@asbak.coding-slaves.com> wrote:

> On 1/16/2006 3:52 PM +0100, David Benfell wrote:
> What's the value of
> /var/qmail/control/concurrencyincoming

It was 20.  I've raised it to 50.

> Is there any kind of ratelimiter (iptables) working
> on the box or in front of 
> the box ?

I have pf running on both the FreeBSD system this is
on, and on the OpenBSD system I use as a router. 
Neither is configured to do any rate limiting.  On the
FreeBSD box I have pf configured only to prevent smtp
traffic from the outside, since I want it to come in
via the router.  And traffic does indeed seem to be
coming in this way:

earth# qmailctl start
Starting qmail
earth# 2006-01-16 12:08:38.684760500 status: local
0/10 remote 0/20
tcpdump -i rl1 port 25
tcpdump: verbose output suppressed, use -v or -vv for
full protocol decode
listening on rl1, link-type EN10MB (Ethernet), capture
size 96 bytes
12:15:24.078978 IP miramanee.icarz.com.61945 >
earth.cybernude.org.smtp: S 3257812926:3257812926(0)
win 0 <mss 1380>
12:15:24.607539 IP 65.104.77.110.ptr.us.xo.net.54876 >
earth.cybernude.org.smtp: S 75346930:75346930(0) win 0
<mss 1460>
12:15:26.035495 IP
uslec-66-255-71-114.cust.uslec.net.12382 >
earth.cybernude.org.smtp: S 231033814:231033814(0) win
0 <mss 1460>
12:15:26.090848 IP ghsmail1.fonterra.com.2388 >
earth.cybernude.org.smtp: S 3366602415:3366602415(0)
win 0 <mss 1460>
12:15:26.312247 IP fep34.mail.dk.53793 >
earth.cybernude.org.smtp: S 3404207534:3404207534(0)
win 0 <mss 1460>
12:15:27.253134 IP opal.hknet.com.uaiact >
earth.cybernude.org.smtp: S 2801266933:2801266933(0)
win 0 <mss 1460>
12:15:27.363964 IP ironmail2.saralee.net.gridgen-elmd
> earth.cybernude.org.smtp: S 1103958429:1103958429(0)
win 0 <mss 1460>
12:15:27.520786 IP mail.beas.de.3241 >
earth.cybernude.org.smtp: S 3032266145:3032266145(0)
win 0 <mss 1460>
12:15:27.932600 IP mail.ebttikar.com.23988 >
earth.cybernude.org.smtp: S 30242711:30242711(0) win 0
<mss 1380>
12:15:28.531284 IP mx2.freebsd.org.22234 >
earth.cybernude.org.smtp: S 1231085722:1231085722(0)
win 0 <mss 1460>
12:15:28.551489 IP mx2.freebsd.org.23497 >
earth.cybernude.org.smtp: S 2599850675:2599850675(0)
win 0 <mss 1460>
12:15:28.571810 IP mx2.freebsd.org.26023 >
earth.cybernude.org.smtp: S 2359369836:2359369836(0)
win 0 <mss 1460>
12:15:28.576768 IP mx2.freebsd.org.20752 >
earth.cybernude.org.smtp: S 1655354628:1655354628(0)
win 0 <mss 1460>
12:15:28.612029 IP mx2.freebsd.org.25961 >
earth.cybernude.org.smtp: S 2730706333:2730706333(0)
win 0 <mss 1460>
12:15:29.024550 IP mailgw3a.lmco.com.47650 >
earth.cybernude.org.smtp: S 1059689307:1059689307(0)
win 0 <mss 1460>
12:15:29.110341 IP
fall-pradero.atl.sa.earthlink.net.52697 >
earth.cybernude.org.smtp: S 624002375:624002375(0) win
0 <mss 1460>
12:15:30.725542 IP mail.pshouston.com.33710 >
earth.cybernude.org.smtp: S 3026039152:3026039152(0)
win 0 <mss 1460>
12:15:30.919287 IP ein.kiva.net.51856 >
earth.cybernude.org.smtp: R 3187400729:3187400729(0)
ack 1770554553 win 0
12:15:30.919309 IP exchange.solidcadcam.com.36268 >
earth.cybernude.org.smtp: R 3271966276:3271966276(0)
ack 518282843 win 0
12:15:30.919351 IP vs2.vdn.pwd.ne.jp.55836 >
earth.cybernude.org.smtp: R 531040945:531040945(0) ack
4258885610 win 0
12:15:30.919357 IP lsh141.siteprotect.com.60523 >
earth.cybernude.org.smtp: R 1643380037:1643380037(0)
ack 2109119820 win 0
^C12:15:30.919404 IP 211.95.124.1.49539 >
earth.cybernude.org.smtp: R 2859857145:2859857145(0)
ack 4284903764 win 0

22 packets captured
308 packets received by filter
0 packets dropped by kernel
earth# 

By the way, I keep forgetting to mention, this is
earth.cybernude.org and the router is
lupin.cybernude.org

Thanks!

David Benfell
white_line_fever@yahoo.com

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On 2006-01-12, at 1938, kalin mintchev wrote:
>
> recently our mail server was listed with an rbl db because the machine
> sends out the autoreplies with the spam message in it.
> on the spamcop site:
> http://www.spamcop.net/fom-serve/cache/329.html
>
> it says that the spamcontrol patch helps to avoid that situation. the
> thing is i have the patched installed. it's been in place for about 6
> months maybe.
>
> the listing in the rbl happened 2 weeks ago.
>
> can somebody please explain if there is a particular configuration  
> file
> that is needed for the patches in spamcontrol to avoid this situation.

configure your autoresponder to not include the text of whatever  
message it's responding to. this should cause spamcop to not consider  
your message to be spam, AND it makes your autoresponder useless for  
spamming purposes.

also read RFC 3834, sections 3.1.5 and 3.1.7, and make sure your  
autoresponder's output includes one or both of the recommended  
headers. this is a standardized mechanism by which auto-reporting  
honeypots (such as my own "delete.net" honeypot) can tell which  
messages are legitimate (if misguided) autoresponder output, and  
which ones are spam.

i have also found SPF to be a valuable (although not perfect) tool  
for filtering incoming mail. my servers use the SPF patch with  
SPFBEHAVIOR=3, which means that all messages are checked and tagged,  
and any messages where the test returns HARD_FAIL (i.e. the message  
claims to be "MAIL FROM" a given domain, but that domain's SPF record  
does not list the sending IP, and also contains "-all", which means  
"and no others") then the message is refused.

> or is there a way to use autorespond without including the original
> message or just stop using autorespond and use a custom 550 message?

that depends on the autoresponder software you're using.

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From: "Ian" <phillida.lutherzm80@gmail.com>
============


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from unknown (HELO 5whe.i7iex.comcast.net) (72.66.166.145)
of that (72.66.166.145)
of that:

[root@laptopserver MyRblsmtpd]# whois  -h whois.arin.net 72.66.166.145
[Querying whois.arin.net]
[whois.arin.net]

OrgName:    Verizon Internet Services Inc.
OrgID:      VRIS
Address:    1880 Campus Commons Dr
City:       Reston
StateProv:  VA
PostalCode: 20191
Country:    US

NetRange:   72.64.0.0 - 72.95.255.255
CIDR:       72.64.0.0/11
NetName:    VIS-72-64
NetHandle:  NET-72-64-0-0-1
Parent:     NET-72-0-0-0-0
NetType:    Direct Allocation
NameServer: NS1.BELLATLANTIC.NET
NameServer: NS2.BELLATLANTIC.NET
NameServer: NS2.VERIZON.NET
NameServer: NS4.VERIZON.NET
Comment:
RegDate:    2005-06-24
Updated:    2005-12-13

OrgAbuseHandle: VISAB-ARIN
OrgAbuseName:   VIS Abuse
OrgAbusePhone:  +1-214-513-6711
OrgAbuseEmail:  abuse@verizon.net

OrgTechHandle: ZV20-ARIN
OrgTechName:   Verizon Internet Services
OrgTechPhone:  +1-703-295-4583
OrgTechEmail:  IPNMC@gnilink.net


Eric wrote:
> Can someone help me decipher the following email header. I'm trying to 
> figure out which one to block but I see google's
> and Verizon's. Thanks for any help. - Eric
> ============
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> SPF record at gmail.com)
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> From: "Ian" <phillida.lutherzm80@gmail.com>
> ============
> 
> 
> 



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Remember all "Received" headers can be spoofed,
except for the last one

When it looks like gibberish or if you see
bogus adresses, always block the last one
(after some verifications)

72.66.166.145 has a reverse DNS of
pool-72-66-166-145.ronkva.east.verizon.net
which doesnt looks like a valid SMTP server, I'd block this one

HTH

Maxime Ducharme

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Eric" <qmail-list@t10.net>
To: <qmail@list.cr.yp.to>
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 2:18 PM
Subject: Confusing Headers


> Can someone help me decipher the following email header.
> I'm trying to figure out which one to block but I see google's
> and Verizon's. Thanks for any help. - Eric
> ============
> Received: by simscan 1.1.0 ppid: 2713, pid: 2714, t: 0.3547s
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> spam: 3.1.0
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> Received: from unknown (HELO 5whe.i7iex.comcast.net) (72.66.166.145)
>   by 0 with SMTP; 17 Jan 2006 08:57:48 -0000
> Received-SPF: neutral (0: 72.66.166.145 is neither permitted nor denied by
> SPF record at gmail.com)
> Received: from unknown (HELO gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com) (66.249.93.114)
>         by 5whe.i7iex.comcast.net with SMTP; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 03:58:11
+0500
> From: "Ian" <phillida.lutherzm80@gmail.com>
> ============
>
>



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Maxime Ducharme wrote:

>Remember all "Received" headers can be spoofed,
>except for the last one
>
>72.66.166.145 has a reverse DNS of
>pool-72-66-166-145.ronkva.east.verizon.net
>which doesnt looks like a valid SMTP server, I'd block this one
>  
>
Maime, thank you for this information. I know how to do whois's but I 
get confused
on the headers. I know now to only trust the last one. Thanks again for 
the help on this.



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You're welcome

Some tricks on this problem :
http://www.spamfo.co.uk/component/option,com_content/task,view/id,16/Itemid,25/
http://www.fmp.com/spam_patrol/tracking.html

Some more infos for better understanding
and HOWTO find untrustable headers :
http://www.stopspam.org/email/headers.html
http://www.bath.ac.uk/bucs/email/anatomy.shtml
http://www.emailaddressmanager.com/tips/header.html
http://www.hnc3k.com/email_headers.htm
http://www.uic.edu/depts/accc/newsletter/adn29/headers.html
http://antivirus.about.com/od/securitytips/l/aa081903e.htm
http://www.stentorian.com/antispam/email.html
http://members.tripod.com/~cyberstalked/header.htm
http://help.mindspring.com/docs/006/emailheaders/emailheaders.php3
http://www.by-users.co.uk/faqs/email/headers/

Some info on IP & DNS sytem :
http://www.samspade.org/d/ipdns.html

Remember you cannot simply block the last one since many
spam will come from a valid SMTP servers which relayed
a mail from a bad source IP (which may be 2nd or 3rd Received
in the email source).

example: a infected computer connected on Verizon sends spam trough
Verizon main SMTP server, but you also have friends using the same
ISP. You would not want to block main SMTP, but only the bad source IP.

Another good way to find bogus Received headers is
to ensure servers's IP and reverse hostnames matches from
a Received header to another.

Have a good reading ;)

Maxime Ducharme

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Eric" <qmail-list@t10.net>
To: <qmail@list.cr.yp.to>
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 3:40 PM
Subject: Re: Confusing Headers


> Maxime Ducharme wrote:
>
> >Remember all "Received" headers can be spoofed,
> >except for the last one
> >
> >72.66.166.145 has a reverse DNS of
> >pool-72-66-166-145.ronkva.east.verizon.net
> >which doesnt looks like a valid SMTP server, I'd block this one
> >
> >
> Maime, thank you for this information. I know how to do whois's but I
> get confused
> on the headers. I know now to only trust the last one. Thanks again for
> the help on this.
>
>
>



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